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Celtic Diary Wednesday November 7: Leipzig, Liars , and A Little Respect Please

Celtic host Leipzig tomorrow night.

I reckon we’ll win 2-1, and kickstart our campaign.

Thats my analysis. Piece of piss this punditry lark.

For a more in depth analysis, pop on here around noon because Uralius has looked into it with a far more expert eye than I could.

Come to think of it, its a far better eye than anyone else’s, especially those in the mainstream media.

There are no new injury worries, but todays training hasn’t finished yet.

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James Forrest, currently enjoying a fruitful creative partnership with Tom Rogic will line up alongside his Aussie foil tonight, and we can but hope these two make up for missing out in the first game…

It was obviously frustrating [to sit the match out with suspension],” 

“It was a weird feeling watching it on the telly – it’s hard to explain what it’s like when you are fit but can’t be involved. You are just eager for the boys to do well and get a good result.

“I am not really used to being suspended. I got a red card in my second season under Lenny and maybe sat out one game. So it was strange and hopefully I don’t experience it again.

“It’s far better to be playing than stuck watching on the television. You do look closely though. And he boys did well at times, especially in that first 30 minutes. It was a close game in the first half an hour and it was really on edge. But they scored a couple of quick goals. When you are not playing you watch those involved and pay close attention to the guys in your position and who you may be up against. Everything helps. 

We’re looking forward to getting them back to Celtic Park. We know it’s a difficult group and Leipzig are a good team. But we have two home games left in the group and we know they will be important. We need to pick up points if we want to progress. There’s no margin for error now.

“The last two results away from home have been disappointing but we still have the opportunity to put it right. We want to progress in Europe and it’s not beyond us to get out of the group. We need to win our home games and maybe pick up something away to Rosenborg. We are capable of doing it. We have got the players in the squad who can achieve it but we need to turn up on the nights. Of course it’s going to be hard against top sides – but we’ve got the quality.” 

A win is essential, anything else and that, as they say, is that.

In his detailed analysis Uralius points out something most others have missed, and as long as Brendan has a look at it pre match, we should be fine.

Then again, you’d hope Brendan , or one of his coaches, has already spotted it.

Leipzig forward Kevin Kampl explained why his side won last time out, and where the weak link in the Celtic side was…

‘If we play like we did in the first game we can win at Celtic. We are going there in a very confident frame of mind.

‘I played there a few years ago with Salzburg and it was amazing.. It was a beautiful atmosphere but I think we can win there. 

‘I think Celtic will be better in their own stadium. They will play more offensively than in Germany as they have to win it.

‘But we know if we can win then we will go to the next round.

 ‘Celtic’s No 88 was open too many times’, 

‘We changed our formation so Bruma could play as a No 10 and close him down.

‘From that point, I think everything was good in our game. We created good chances and we should have scored one or two more goals.’  

There was more to it than that, as you will see when you read Uralius’s preview.

We still believe the mainstream media, right ?

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Every now and again, when reading through any of the social media sites, or football related forums, one will pause and consider how we ever coped without them.

We’ve all done it, and it still surprises me that the mainstream media, and those in the various PR companies who feed them, still actually harbour a belief that anyone takes them seriously.

In the world of politics, there can be little doubt that the right wing media is a formidable instrument when it comes to the Westminster government managing to cling on to power, the astonishing witch hunt to find those who burnt a replica of the tragic Grenfell Tower and bring them to face justice, whilst those involved in the real fire are largely ignored is a case in point.

Not only do they distort facts, but they can use words to imprint their opinions…or the opinions of their friends…onto our minds.

This week we’ve seen an example play out over at “rangers 2, where a channel four newsman was lined up to interview Steven Gerrard.

Ciaran Jenkins was told that because he would not agree to a pre prepared list of questions, there would be no interview. this from the Record..

Rangers insist Steven Gerrard pulled out of an interview with Channel 4 because agreed upon questions were changed.

An interview with Gerrard by Channel 4 journalist Ciaran Jenkins was due to take place today before being cancelled at the last minute.

Jenkins then took to social media to give his side of the story but Rangers have disagreed with his reasoning as to why it was cancelled.

The disagreement came about after Jenkins insisted he had been told not to ask questions about Hibs boss Neil Lennon as well as sectarianism. 

Jenkins responded..

Steven Gerrard just pulled out of interview.

Told by personal staffer- not Rangers- we couldn’t ask certain questions including about Neil Lennon and sectarianism. Then she disappeared.

Been waiting for him here for hours. Nobody even told us in person it was off. 

Then added..

Rangers claim there was advance agreement that questions would be predominantly about the film. This is untrue. However, my questions *were* predominantly about the film anyway. So if there had been an agreement, I would have been adhering to it. 

The film in question is about Gerrard’s career, presumably rushed out before its over.

Then the Sun got in on the act..

…that version of events has been disputed by the Ibrox club.

SunSport Online understands Gers are seething about the way the situation has been portrayed on social media and say an agreement with Channel 4 about the interview – which they say was meant to be about the new film and Gerrard’s Liverpool career – was breached.

The club are unhappy that it has been suggested Gerrard would refuse to answer questions about Lennon when he has already spoken out to condemn the recent shameful coin-throwing incidents

It is also claimed that the interview had originally been set up with another Channel 4 reporter who then couldn’t make it, with Jenkins taking their place at late notice.

An Ibrox spokesperson said: “It is simple – it was agreed that any interview around the Steven Gerrard documentary would be predominantly film focused.

“There was an interview scheduled for today but it became clear the journalist’s questions were not in keeping with this agreement, so the interview did not go ahead.

“Steven Gerrard is accommodating and wide ranging in his dealings with the media and it is not true to suggest today’s interview was cancelled because of questions relating to another manager.” 

To which Jenkins replied..

The latest false claim is that Gerrard interview was supposed to be with another reporter who ‘couldn’t make it’ at late notice. This is 100% false and actually quite amusing someone would bother to make this stuff up! 

Welcome to our world, Ciaran.

Channel 4 news is notable for asking questions that are perhaps out of line with what the interviewee may be comfortable with.

Effectively, they don’t do PR pieces, and thats obviously what has upset James Traynor, the mouthpiece at Ibrox.

In a nutshell, it explains why our own media are happy to print any guff that comes out of there, and why they managed to get away with as much as they have over the years.

But we knew that…

Speaking of the media, and its righteous attitude…

The Diary had decided not to comment on the poppy palaver, as far as I’m concerned , if you want to wear one, wear one. If you don’t, don’t.

I remember when the whole point of Remembrance Sunday was more about “Never again “, a reference to the millions killed worldwide in the early twentieth century total wars, and that message is irrefutable.

These days, of course, its changed a wee bit.

A lot, in fact. Especially given the western powers recent foreign policy of barging around anywhere near there’s an oilfield. to help bring democracy to these places, which in this instance tends to be another word for capitalism.

As a result, anyone who doesn’t want to wear a poppy is publicly lambasted, similar to the way men not in uniform were lambasted and handed white feathers by women in order to publicly shame them into volunteering to live in a trench for a few years.

Interestingly, these women were detested by the serving soldier, because they would often accost those back home on leave, or more often, back home recuperating after being wounded.

Its that enthusiasm that is disturbing, and as we know, one fottballer, James MacLean of Stoke, regularly faces unwanted and unwarranted attention for not wanting to wear a poppy on his club shirt.

A couple of years ago, but compare the wording with this, same theme, same paper…different player..

Notice the first report claims the poppy is only about the dead of the First World War, which originally it was…it has its origins in the Flanders field poem.

In the second, respect is given to a player who’s home town was bombed by the British during the Yugoslavian war.

McLean is often advised to go back to Ireland if he won;t wear a poppy, which kind of backs up his claim about “uneducated cavemen “.

He’s from Derry, which is technically part of the United kingdom, where if he did go home, he would still be paid in pound notes…

We can draw a comparison with the Grenfell tragedy..

This is viewed as a hate crime… and there’s a media campaign to find the perpetrators. Even the prime minister has spoken of her disgust.

this, of course, is merely kulchurr

 

For me, having read dozens of recently released private letters and diaries from those who took part in the first world war, there will be a moment of quiet contemplation for those people.

Which I feel is appropriate. I cannot find it in me to glorify war.

Some can, however..

 

Others take it even further, and yet there have been no comments in the media..

I wonder if any of our esteemed journalists will ask him to explain what point he was making with his Ulster Defence Regiment badge.

Then again, there has to be condemnation of Celtic fans singing a little ditty about where poppies should be placed.

That is disrespectful, and there can be no excuse for it.

If you want to wear one, wear one. If you don’t , don’t, but respect others decisions.

Or you will sound just like those in the media banging their battle drum.

 

There was no caption competition yesterday, so we go back to Monday for this one..

Paddybhoy67 November 5, 2018 at 6:37 pm · Edit · Reply →

Fat bastard mimics fat bastard doing the fat bastard dance.

 

Today..

 

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Hoop hoop hooray
5 years ago

The bungee jump crane is moved into position so that the faithful can once again celebrate the battle of the boyne….boyne….boyne boyne boyne boyne boyne

Bognorbhoy
5 years ago

Caption

Derek Johnston lifted into his seat before a recent game .

BJF
5 years ago

Like it.

5 years ago

Caption: sevco make arrangements to give some of their – “ahem” – less sylph-like supporters assistance to enter the stadium.

Monti
5 years ago

Caption: ” Monti volunteers for an overtime shift….& doesn’t want paid for it “

Mike Annis
5 years ago

Caption: plans in place to get Derek Johnstone into the stadium, turn styles being too small.

5 years ago

Quick get that photo to jock meedja,the zombies will be told we spent millions on this derelict dump

Level 5 plant
5 years ago

Rangers show off new multi million pound stand improvements

Erskinetim
5 years ago

Caption:

“There’s your lunch Mr Traynor, that’ll be £143.99 please”

Portbhoy
5 years ago

can we afford £500 a day to hold the roof up?

Mike
5 years ago

I note that Celtic F.C. have issued a statement regarding the abuse by Torbett. For clarity: The Celtic Boys Club was started in 1966, at first it was based at Maryhill. They approached Sir Robert Kelly who gave them permission to use the Celtic name and to wear our colours. The Celtic Boys Club was a totally separate entity from the professional football club Celtic F.C. but the links were strengthened when Celtic allowed them to use the Barrowfield training facility, where although the young players many of whom went on to sign for Celtic F.C. including Tommy Burns, they were not obliged to sign for Celtic they could sign professionally for any team. The Celtic Boys Club was run as a totally separate entity from Celtic F.C. and its structure was totally different, it had its own people running it, indeed one of its chairmen was a Mr. Gerald King a primary school teacher, who was suspended by his school when charged in 2017 with historical sexual abuse, another member of the Boys Club was also charged for the same crimes. I also note that an abused young man has prompted by a Dailly paper requested that Celtic F.C. issue an apology and is intending to sue, this must be why the statement has been issued, it is difficult to see how that can be successful, being that Celtic F.C. was not involved in any way and all responsibility lay with the totally separate Celtic Boys Club…

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
PISH

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike, glad you posted that and that Celtic have begun to confront this vile issue. More will come out in the fullness of time but Celtic HAD to start somewhere. The idea of suing Celtic and the following claims for compensation will be heralded in the press as our known enemies try to use a heinous act by heinous people of various backgrounds to beat us with. They’ll fail as they always fail. As their club terminally failed.
I just hope that ALL victims of abuse can gradually come forward with their personal stories, confident of being treated with dignity, respect and compassion and that the evil bastards perpetrating this worst of all crimes can KNOW that they WILL be found out and they will be made to pay, REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE OR WHERE THEY’RE FROM.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

Exactly, but according to the statement Celtic started to act on this vile behaviour some years back. There is no doubt in my mind that our enemies are rejoicing and using this as an excuse to beat up the club.
As for those poor people they deserve our fullest support.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

well said tic toc ther are some peeple in scotland who would have us playing 3 games a week and 2 on a sunday for torberts victims

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Aye charlie, and well we know it. Thing is, it’s THEM bastards who try to play the victims! Fuckin’ scum.
COYBIG an’ I hope you’re right wi’ 3-0 tomorrow night.
That would be a wee bit magic! (a big bit even)
HH

Mike
5 years ago

Not involved in any way, except of course by allowing permission for its name to be used and giving permission for the use of its training facilities. I have no idea if any of Celtic F.C. personnel or staff would be utilised but I would very much doubt that they would be… being that it was run by a different entity..

bgbhoy
5 years ago

anyone about the town tomorrow ore match? should be in grace’s about 3pm

FredDDobbs@hotmail.com
5 years ago

Free the grenfell 6

FredDDobbs
5 years ago

your wonderful imperial britsh govt want to give jail time to 6 dudes for burning a cardboard box. You island people are living in Nazi Germany 1939 and lapping it up

Uralius
5 years ago

My piece is gone. Must’ve been really good.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

It’s back up.

5 years ago

Caption ‘Thats the sound of the man..working on the Crane gaaaaaaaasnnnnggggggg!!!!!!!’

Uralius
5 years ago

It was up, but is gone. Must’ve been really good.

Uralius
5 years ago

Bahahaha

charlie
5 years ago

caption trainor sais are yees awe deaf as well as daft a asked fur cranes fur ma laptop loyal tae draw wae

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

HaHaHa, nice wan charlie! 🙂
HH

Mike
5 years ago

Caption, using my pseudonym “The Cha” Watch out the “Rangers” are building….

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Oi!

Monti
5 years ago

Happy to see Celtic’s statement today, very happy but what now for the victims?
Hopefully Celtic have a plan in place to compensate these victims, i don’t buy all this stuff that it had nothing to do with CELTIC F.C., We are big enough to see above the technicalities of this situation.
Get the victims together & sort their futures out, we can help & we should help them.

What about an exhibition match with the proceeds going to the victims?

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti,

PISH.

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Disagree.

It simply repeats previous statements from the past eg nothing to do with us, sympathy for victims, we’ve improved processes etc.

Anyone who was a young boy or parent back then would’ve seen Celtic BC as an integral part of the club and would’ve made judgements to join on that basis.

Both victims and survivor organisations are and have been calling on Celtic to issue a formal apology.

I think that’s the least that we should be doing.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

If you issue an apology, you admit responsibility, when you admit responsibility you will be expected to pay compensation. Where do you draw the line? Anyone can claim that they were abused, even down south the person named “Luke” managed to convince the police that over twenty two people was guilty of abusing youngsters hein fact suggested that two young people were murdered. He was a fantasist, who is now facing a lengthy jail sentence…

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

When you issue an apology, you admit responsibility, who determines guilt or innocence? Down south the person named “Luke” accused 22 people of child abuse and managed to convince the police, the police charged them and in doing so they ruined those 22 lives. “Luke” is now to stand trial and is facing a lengthy prison sentence..

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

monti celtic and our supporters are not responsible for compensating torberts victims torbert is

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Charlie,
I disagree with you!

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

thats your perogative mate

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Charlie Saiz,
Bang on, when we talk of monetary compensation, my point is it would help in a small way & after all they have been through in their lives, they deserve to have a better future.

Monti
5 years ago

CS,
That is good news, both are top talents, i think Celtic will win 2-0.

Mike
5 years ago

Victims of any kind of abuse deserve our fullest support, but who determines who is responsible and what if any compensation they should receive, the courts of law decide innocence or guilt and fix the amount of compensation that they should receive, that is who decides. No one else.

Poppies were on display on the BBC from October, they were still on display this morning. Its like the shops displaying goods for Christmas in September, there is no protocol for when and where or how big the poppies should be. I get angry at the thought of “The Earl Haig Poppy appeal, know that he couldn’t give a jot about the soldiers who marched in there thousands to face machine guns in WW1. Wear them if you must, or don’t, it should be a personnel choice. But organisations like the F.A. have contributed to the poppy debate, its absolute nonsense.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

well said mike

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Alright Charles, how are they hinging? good I hope. 😉

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

doing great mikey canny wait for the gemme the morra 3-0 to the tic coybig

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
You say ” deserve our fullest support ” but at the same time you’re saying it’s nothing to do with us?
So if it’s nothing to do with us, why do you think we should give ” them our fullest support?

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

On a personal basis we show our fullest support, but if you are a football club that is not involved in the abuse, then why should you be expected to pay compensation. This has nothing to do with an apology this is about money, compensation. If the professional football club Celtic F.C. were in any way a party to the abuse of anyone, then I would be the one shouting the loudest, calling for a full apology and compensation. Sympathy and empathy, yes, an apology for some other organisation then no.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
Just for clarity, are yu saying this has nothing to do with Celtic?

Uralius
5 years ago

My piece is back up for those that missed it.

Cartvale88
5 years ago

Poppies, years ago had no objection to wearing them, but have now been politicised, refuse to wear one. Agree with McLean and Matic, the poppy police are a sad shower.
Disagree with comments on CFC compensating victims of Torbett, how in Gods name can you be responsible for another organisation, this is the stance the scum media appear to be working at.
The ongoing hatred of all things Catholic in this country is behind most of the shit the media stir up in the swamps. Smith claiming Lenny should be held to account says it all.
Looking for reward to Leipzig, thus is one we will win, they were not that good in Germany, there was little between the teams, if Eddie had scored it could well have been a different game.

Caption
New disco lights are installed

Morto
5 years ago

Caption: New access arrangements for the club deck after Albion Car park repossessed by latest secured lender.

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago

The Scottish media are taking a very sad story of abuse and ongoing mental anguish and using it as a stick to try and beat Celtic Football Club. I think the Club’s statement today is enough on an official platform since the Celtics Boys Club was a differently entity and managed by others outside of Celtic Football Club, no matter how close the association. That said I think Celtic and other clubs where this has happened could play a couple of games with proceeds donated to an organization that tackles child abuse to helps them prevent abuse on a wider scale. All those at Celtic Boys Club who led and managed it for all those years should absolutely apologize and seek forgiveness for their inaction if they had the slightest idea it was going on.

Pat Higney
5 years ago

Caption: Dave King’s ego gets a lift!

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago

Caption: Tesco want to keep that part of the roof for the veggie section of the shop.

Una
5 years ago

Caption

Floating casino fully operational at ipox

Uralius
5 years ago

CELTIC!

Uralius
5 years ago

Ah I can post on here. I have left a few of you replies, but I think Ralph has banned me from replying, he want’s me to keep my secret thought process secret. 🙂 CS you should go back and check your comment. 4-1-2-2-1 WIDE or 4-2-3-1? Mak yer mind up!

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

As we saw in Leipzig not all 433s are created equal. 🙂

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

HaHaHa, Uralius “….but I think Ralph has banned me from replying, he want’s me to keep my secret thought process secret.”
HaHaHa, fuckin’ good idea Ralph, HaHaHa. 🙂

COYBIG tonight, full concentration at the back, no fucking about from big Craig, Boyata etc. if there’s no option to throw the ball, just drop kick it; we’ve as much chance as them of getting it. Go FORWARD without fear, we can take that lot. 3-0 would be pure magic. Mad charlie’s right again. Go Celtic, Go.
HH

Alzyerpal
5 years ago

The “White Feather” women are still stoating about. Their preferred insult these days is a GMB banner.

steve
5 years ago

Caption : Mike Ashley drops off his latest Legal Bill….

Desmond and the Dekkers
5 years ago

Caption: For there’s not a team like the Glasgow Crane-gers

Mike
5 years ago

There’s only one team in Scotland, one team in Scotland, one team in Scotland, only one team in Britain, one team in Britain, one team in Europe, only one team in Europe, one team in Europe.
Glasgow Celtic, we wont be mastered by any Orange bastard…
Beam me up Snotty…

portpower
5 years ago

I just want to witness the confidence we`ve had lately.

2 each brilliant effort of a game.

Caption:
The long arm of the TOP davit the South African based shadow chairman.

Monti
5 years ago

Don’t know why but it doesn’t sit with me all this ‘ The boys club was a different entity ‘.
I think while technically it was a seperate entity, i think the relationship between Celtic & the boys club was a close one, with a long list of full Celtic first team players brought through that system.
In my heart of hearts something is telling me that Celtic have to take responsibility here, not for Torbetts actions, but for the victims healings process.

Come on Celtic, let’s face this!

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti, I’m going to be the right dick here and address the elephant in the room.

1. Only the sick Bastards know how many lives were ruined it could be hundreds.
2. If Celtic FC accept responsibility in any way, shape or form they could be held liable for all of these instances.
3. If it can be proven that these poor folk had the potential to become professional footballers, Celtic FC could be held liable for loss of wages as well as medical costs.
4. That would result in our club paying modern day footballer wages for all those abused.

Sorry to say I am not willing to have Celtic FC held liable. If Celtic Supporters could raise all that money for Palestine then we should be able to raise enough money to help ease the pain of the victims.

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius, that’s a decent call.
Celtic are NOT responsible for every piece of shit that manages to secure employment within fringe activities like the Boys Club. As Mike has already said, Celtic have been looking into this for some time and it’s too easy to jump the gun here and get it wrong. I’m sure our Board, with a little pushing from our supporters, if necessary, will get this right for all the RIGHT reasons. Something as emotionally evocative as this sickening incident tends to get blown all over the place when it really needs cool but compassionate action. I seldom trust our Board but I feel they’ve at least made a move with the Club’s statement and will be interested to see how they follow this up, but guilty as a Club we are, as far as I can see, NOT.

Una
5 years ago

Pure gold son 2 ogs lol

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Una

Well noticed Una! In other circumstances that may’ve been cruel, but it’s not and it’s not!
Hell slap it intae them.
HH

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