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Rangers, Sevco, Oldco, Newco

Five years since Rangers slipped into liquidation, Doc looks at a precedent that the SMSM seem to have missed….

 

Preamble: I’ve written a few things before as very long comments which Etims have made into articles and seeing as I’ve been less drunk than usual recently, I thought I would write this as a proper article to complete my very challenging Etims quota of one per year. Let me know what you think in the comments and if you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it then I can only apologise.

 

 
When they went into administration on St Valentine’s Day and then slipped into the death throes of liquidation we all felt absolutely nothing but sympathy.

What we should have been the final say on Rangers has, in time, raised a lot of talking points.
Are they the same club? Does it matter if they are considered a new club? Is it just a bit of banter between fans? What harm is there in letting fans believe the club never died? Is it just about past titles and bragging rights?

The fans, the media, the SFA and some clubs have all weighed into this debate, both in statement and in suggestion. They are far from unanimous and even further from definitive so I’m going to add my own tuppence worth by looking at it from a different angle but first, I will start with a question.

Can you name the first football club that was spending money it didn’t have then the stadium and trademarks were sold to a dodgy businessman who, aided by footballing authorities, pretended it was the original club was still going so he could profit from the fans?

If your answer was Rangers then you are wrong, for the answer to have been Rangers then Charles Green’s big hands would have to be used for something creative as opposed to taking fans money.

The answer I was looking for was FC Politechnica Timisoara from Romania, some of you may remember they beat us on away goals in the early eighties. Those European adventures couldn’t last and they spent the rest of the decade struggling with relegation/promotion.

In the late eighties, they were taken over by a wealthy businessman and they club started doing well again and had some decent games in Europe but they were living out with their means. Remind you of anyone?

Whereas Rangers had no one who could match their financial clout, the banks in Romania weren’t as generous/stupid/suicidal (delete as appropriate) as the Bank of Scotland and FC Politechnica Timisoara’s cash dried up then, in the mid-nineties, it was back to skirting relegation/promotion once again. After two relegations and faced with the prospect of playing in a regional league, in 2002, FC Politechnica Timisoara were removed.

 

 

That wasn’t the end of it as a businessman bought the stadium, rights, trademarks, etc and a football club was created with the same badge, playing in the same colours, at the same ground and supported by the same fans as the original FC Politechnica Timisoara. The new club would call itself FCU Politechnica Timisoara and it claimed the history and titles of the old club, all allowed by the national football authorities.

That is where the similarities with Rangers end, for example, FCU Politechnica Timisoara started the next season in the top flight. The chairman of the original FC Politechnica Timisoara took action, he complained to the Romanian football authorities but was left unsatisfied by their response so he then took the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Just as you can’t put on your dead granny’s dress to draw her pension, one football club can’t assume the identity and history of another football club. The CAS handed down its decision in 2006.

 

The CAS ruled on four things: the misuse of a club’s name and colours by another club, distinction between name and trademarked name, the competence of the national association and the sanction. It’s a fifteen page judgement and mostly in legalise, whilst I’m not a lawyer, my translated bits are in square brackets, e.g. i’ll refer to the new club as [Newco]. So here are some the meatier excerpts from the judgement, the juicy bits:

1. “It is a necessary element of the process of admission of members to such a sports federation to also decide on the differentiability of the name of a new member… the Romanian Football Federation must guarantee to its other members and to FIFA that the new member does not set out to imitate the colours of an old or existing member.”

2. “the Commission forbade [Newco] to use the sports records of [FC Politechnica Timisoara] in official communications of the club, in reviews, presentations – written or electronic, as well as in any communications, documents issued by the club or other persons controlled by the club, and to use [FC Politechnica Timisoara]’s logo.”

3. “it was not allowed to use the track record, history and logo of [FC Politechnica Timisoara], the Panel wishes to emphasize that the [Newco] is also not allowed to imitate the colours of [FC Politechnica Timisoara] in conjunction with the above-mentioned usage of the track record, history and logo of [FC Politechnica Timisoara].”

4. “The Panel, therefore, orders the [Newco] to continue to use its earlier name … or to adopt another name, approved by the Romanian Football Federation, that does not include the risk of confusion with the name of [FC Politechnica Timisoara].”

5. “The Commission ordered the [Newco] not to use the sports records of [FC Politechnica Timisoara] in official communications of the club, in reviews, written or electronic presentations, as well as in any communications, documents issued by the club or other persons controlled by the club, and not to use the logo. For every future infringement of this decision, the [Newco] is held to pay an amount of € 5,000. The Panel has added to this any use of the name and colours of [FC Politechnica Timisoara].”

6. “For the purposes of calculation of the entire amount of compensation to be paid to [FC Politechnica Timisoara] by the [Newco], a usage shall be defined as an official match played by the Respondent whilst using [FC Politechnica Timisoara]’s name, track record, history and logo and colours.”

Payments were also charged from when the chairman first complained and the newco were given one month to pay, after that 5% interest would be applied.

 

So how does this fit in with Scotland? While there are parts of the case that are similar to Wimbledon/MK Dons but claiming the name, colours and history of a former club is what has happened with Rangers/Sevco and those parts of the case are clearly similar to what has went on in Scotland. Under FIFA statute 14.1.a, the SFA are obliged to fully comply with CAS decisions and, in this case, the CAS decided that;

1. A new club’s name and colours must be different from another club, even a dead club.

2. A new club is forbidden to use another club’s records or logo in any communication.

3. A new club cannot claim the track record, history or sporting achievements of another club.

4. The newco must change its name so it cannot be confused with another club.

5. The penalty for breaking these rules is at least €5000.

6 The financial penalty is per official match played. 

CAS Decision

This is imposed by the CAS and their authority trumps any Nimmo Smith enquiry or any five-way agreement. The CAS is the final decision and they have decided it is against the rules to use the name, colours and history of a former club.

The SFA should know about this CAS decision and how its findings apply to Scotland, after all, it is their job to do so. By allowing Sevco to imitate Rangers and by being a party to this deception the SFA show that it is not a body fit for purpose and that they cannot or will not apply the laws without fear or favour.

 

A similar action in Scotland would have to be started by those involved at Rangers, such as Craig Whyte or the liquidators but one thing to note is that the penalty is not a fine paid to the football authorities, it is a compensation payment to the club whose identity has been stolen so, in this case, the penalty would go into the pot for the creditors.

We shouldn’t need to take things to the courts for the rules to be upheld, the SFA should be doing it as a matter of course. It’s a sad state of affairs that what we want, the rules followed and a level playing field, requires court action or judicial review. The SFA, through Stewart Regan were very vocal when the FIFA scandal was in full flow two years ago. He spoke of transparency, integrity and protecting the games image but the SFA appear to have forgotten all this in how they operate.

 

To end, we go back to Romania. The large penalty imposed by the CAS led FCU Politechnica Timisoara into financial distress and contributed to them going to the wall in 2012, their chairman decided to do to the same again and started another club, ACS Poli Timisoara. The fans had enough and, like FC United of Manchester, they decided they would start their own club. The fan’s club, SS Politechnica Timisoara , were founded in 2012 and began life playing in the Romanian amateur leagues. Over the last five years they have grown, developed and been promoted. This season, they are in the second tier of Romanian football.

 

We wish them well.

 

 

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Monti
6 years ago

Doc,
Very good article sir,
This is a subject that continues to get on my not inconsiderable tits!
As i said the other day, post liquidation the Huns are not allowed to promote, refer to & advertis as” Rangers”.
Has the original rangers been officially liquidated to date?
If so what can be done to stop this inane same club shite?

Fuck sake min!

TicToc
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti, the huns are still in the LIQUIDATION process. I can tell you more later but can’t do it now as need to go out.
HH

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

TicToc,
Cool!

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Cheers Monti, that’s the crux of it. Why is one club allowed to do this when the courts have stopped others?

Hope Boyata does well for Belgium and plays better for us so he can get selected for the WC.

TicToc
6 years ago

Doc, I haven’t time to read this properly but I get the gist of it and have to say a great big WELL DONE for your research and explanation of the Romanian equivalent of Sevco.
I presume CAS is only open to our club to pursue this and, if so, we must bring pressure to get this done.
I hope this leads where it should do, as they’ve earned every possible ignominy that could come their way, and then some.
HH

Reginald J Trotsfield
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

i don’t think there is any comparison in the two situations. in the case above, it seems the “old” club chairman was miffed that the “new” club was using the colours etc, hence the complaint to CAS. i don’t think charlie green or the easdales etc will be complaining to CAS!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/may/17/rotten-core-of-romanian-football

i really don’t think looking to romanian football as an example is a good idea…!

nice thought but no, won’t happen, nothing to do with us.

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

It was the ‘oldco’ then chairman that started it in this case.

Reginald J Trotsfield
6 years ago
Reply to  Doc

evening,
i see a few of your comments have went through after mine, which are “under moderation”.

the CAS have no jurisdiction on this unless asked to by the parties in disagreement. who is it that is disagreeing about what in this case?

they are not a “court” in the context folks appear to think, reading their posts on this page. they are an arbitration service : two completely different things.

if fellow celtic fans start saying the CAS should do something, it will make us all look a bit silly.

lets stick to stuff that is realistic, yeah?

TicToc
6 years ago

RJT, do I detect a wee bit of anxiety in your comments?
Do you have a vested interest here?
Are you, in fact, a hun?
If you are being genuine then all I’d say is that attitudes like yours are one of the main reasons that fucking charlatans, con artists et al survive and prosper. I believe we should all expend time and energy bringing scumbags like those associated with both old huns and new huns into the light and make sure they pay for their cheating. In this regard, EVERYONE’S only aim should be to root out the scum, regardless of where it’s found. Now, please, do or say something useful and positive or rev up and fuck off.
HH

Reginald j trotsfield
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

You’d be completely wrong. No anxiety, not a him.

The above article and comments are simply incorrect.

TicToc
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

RJT, I refer you to my reply to you above (11.17 AM) which I ask you to re-read, paying particular attention to the final sentence.
I’ve no intention of wasting any more time on you.
HH

Reginald J Trotsfield
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

fair enough. have a nice evening!

TicToc
6 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Doc, that’s why I suggested contacting BDO; they’re in as close a position as possible (to the Romanian club’s chairman) as they’re in charge of winding up the ‘oldco’ huns. Also to contact Celtic PLC (as they can approach CAS)and also CAS to try to make them aware of all of this.
I’ll try to find time later this week to contact all 3 above with a request to DO SOMETHING, and attach the PDF file on the CAS verdict which I’ve got saved.
Hopefully the net is tightening…….
HH

Reginald J Trotsfield
6 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

“Under what conditions will the CAS intervene ?
For a dispute to be submitted to arbitration by the CAS, the parties must agree to this in writing. Such agreement may be on a one-off basis or appear in a contract or the statutes or regulations of a sports organization. Parties may agree in advance to submit any future dispute to arbitration by the CAS, or they can agree to have recourse to the CAS after a dispute has arisen.”

looks like both sides have to agree to appear. probably why its the Court of Arbitration of Sport.

nothing will happen through them, its a pipe dream.

no conspiracy, no nothing, the cuurent sevco owners would have to agree to appear, that aint gonna happen!

MattyBhoy
6 years ago

See if a non-chancer owner (I know, oxymoron) took over and just changed the badge, called them Kinning Park Swifts and declared the brick facade, marble staircase, trophy room and the bike as part of a museum to the old Rangers FC the poison could have been sucked right out of the game five years ago. Alas.

This happens in Italy all the time and at least their clubs have the good grace to title themselves Ascoli 1893, Parma Calcio, SSC Napoli etc.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  MattyBhoy

Mattybhoy,
Good points!

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  MattyBhoy

The main reason I highlighted this case is because it deals with the name as well as the history/records.

Danny
6 years ago

Are BDO not obliged therefore, to use this precedent to recoup monies from [Newco SC425159] masquerading as SC004276 (IL) on behalf of the stiffed creditors to whom SC425159 is an affront. And subsequently be informed of their duty?

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Danny

Danny,
Well said!

TicToc
6 years ago
Reply to  Danny

Danny, spot on. BDO have a duty to collect from ALL/ANY source available. As long as they KNOW of it…….now if some kind soul would put them wise here…..
NB, I can’t open the link to the full CAS document but forwarding the original decision with a note of its potential benefit to shareholders would be hard for BDO to ignore.
Oh, hell slap it intae that scum. 🙂
HH

CarlJungleBhoy
6 years ago

Excellent stuff Doc! If the CAS rulings & fines – €5,000 per infringement – were applied in Scotland then Newco would be unable to pretend to be a going concern and stocks of jelly & icecream would run out very quickly.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

Bowl sir? 🙂

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

The €5000 was a minimum, I left out a bit about the compensation but the ‘newco’ argued that the amount was too high considering that Romania was not the wealthiest nation.

A bit from the CAS that I left out:
“The Panel finds it reasonable to impose a sum of € 5,000 per infringement … Such a sum per infringement looks high when being compared to the average Romanian monthly income of approximately € 380 … On the other hand, art. 16 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code provides for fines in the amount of CHF 300 – 1,000,000 without nation criteria.”

Monti
6 years ago

As far as a new name for second rangers, i always called them ‘ get fucking intae these orange cunts ‘ 🙂

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Other more delicate phrases such as, ” fucking buckle that cunt ” would usually ensue

* Buckle, East of Scotland term for crippling a cunt on the park.

VooDude
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You missed FC at the end.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  VooDude

🙂

waco61
6 years ago

monti, the almost dead club has to await the END of ALL FRAUD cases before the final signature goes on the death cert,we still have the illegal(allegedly)asset sale coming to a glasgow court early next year,then we will see the final nail in the more than a decade of cheating toxic FC`s death cert

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  waco61

Waco,
As long as when we reach the end of that process, these fucks are told to change their name and hideous crest.

HH

6 years ago

Great analysis of the correct way to apply rules, i think the Resolution guy’s will in the end turn to CAS for the final ruling on the whole sevco shambles, the SFA are certainly not fit for purpose, to many conflicts of interest within the SFA for them to apply the rules without features favour, it’s a corrupt organisation run by very corruptable men. Only a complete overhaul of the SFA will put and end to this same club myth, and only then can we “move on” in Scottish football…KTF

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  KEIGHLEY BHOY

Thanks, I completely agree. The SFA seem to make a mess of everything to do with this.

Auldheid
6 years ago

When UEFA Head of Club Licensing wrote to Celtic shareholders’ lawyer stating TRFC/TRIFC were a NEW club/company that letter was copied to the SFA.

A week later a sanitised version ostensibly from the UEFA Media department that omitted the NEW club/company reference was published by STV (Grant Russell)

Now even if STV had acted totally on their own with no input from the SFA, the latter failed to correct what STV had published.

This is not an act of SFA saying nothing. It is an act of hiding that they are in the wrong.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Auldheid,
Post liquidation would surely be the time for name changing and crest cracking?
I could be wrong ( first time for everything) cough, but i’m certain i read somewhere that after they were officially liquidated, they then could not call themselves…huns..i mean scum…no i mean ” rangers “?

VooDude
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Month, I may be completely wrong here but I believe they are allowed to mimic the huns (similar name, colours, ect.) because the creditors agreed. Whether they were actually asked, or whether D&P agreed ‘on their behalf’ I’m not sure but that’s how I think it happened.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  VooDude

I’m all confused with this shit now 🙂

TicToc
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti/VooDude, it’s intentionally confusing, the whole fucking lot of it, BY DESIGN.
That’s the modus operandi, to confuse everyone and get their slimy fucking way. Well tough shit; I’ll tough it out and there’re plenty more where I come from. The Administrators, Duff & Phelps gave permission to use the old name and all the rest of it. CAS has the ability to throw the lot of it out and follow the precedent of the Romanian club. LNS, SMSM, et al, ALL become fucking irrelevant.
The new huns were given a ‘conditional Licence on the 29th July so that they could play Brechin, and the name of the Licence-holder was SEVCO SCOTLAND LIMITED. They DIDN’T get the old hun’s Licence nor were they ‘given’ the old hun’s history; it’s all bollocks to try to legitimise what REALLY happened.
I once again urge everyone to contact BDO (the LIQUIDATORS) and use the link I provided earlier (or Doc’s if you can get it to work). Also contact CAS and Celtic PLC in the same manner and try to get Doc’s excellent work to, er, em, Progres. HaHaHa, I fucking love that word now, just as I love that shower’s lack of Progres and Progre’s lack of huns. 🙂
Hope I haven’t made a cunt of this as I’m rushing and have much to do before going away next week.
HH

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

There’s the ‘fit and proper’ criminal, R12, secret agreements and the newco lies. While this isn’t a smoking gun, I hope it could be another loose thread.

Wisnae me
6 years ago

Tell it to Airdieonians and Clydebank. The SFA have previous for this imitation lark.

They still haven’t told me if Airdrie won the 2nd division in 1976 (as Clydebank) or if they won the Scottish Cup in 1924. Not bad for a club formed in 2012.

The club’s official name was changed in 2013 with the approval of the SFA to the traditional name of Airdrieonians, which seems to be in direct contravention of the CAS decision you pointed out.

Perhaps a journalist might get a response to these questions, if only to compare and contrast with how they treat Rangers International FC.

Wisnae me
6 years ago

wikipedia != SFA

Wisnae me
6 years ago

https://www.airdriefc.com/club-history is perhaps more telling

portpower
6 years ago
Reply to  Wisnae me

Great read Doc.

G`day Wisnae me,
wrt the Airdrie shenanigans,that would be David Longmuir’s doings.
This is the same man that handed sevco fc, rangers`(IL) history.

All at the expense of a SFA golden handshake.

Wisnae me
6 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Aye, that’s kinda the point, if they ‘award’ Airdrie United(2012) various trophies that other clubs won [incidentally I think they did win the 2nd Division as Clydebank] then Rangers International are not getting special treatment, the administrators of Scottish football are just incompetent. However, if they reject the idea that a club from 2012 can win trophies in the 20th century then they’re corrupt in favour of any entity from Ibrox. I’d like to know which it was before we throw them out for not being fit for purpose, but either way they should be thrown out.

mike
6 years ago

Good article Doc, The original “Rangers” are still going through the liquidation process that is why UEFA still have them registered on their official web-site. You can fool all of the peepil some of the time, some of the peepil all of the time, but you cannot fool all of peepil all of the time.
The problem is parked at the door of the SFA, The five way agreement,
The SFA, The SPL, The The other leagues, “Rangers” and Sevco.
The only way to unlock the door is with a judicial review.
This is not about Celtic and any other incarnation of the deed club, this is about the governance of Scottish fitba. currently we have a version of the three monkies, hear no evil, see no evil and talk shite, until the current incumbants at the SFA and the SPFL are removed then we shall never have the full openness and transparency that is required to heal the Scottish game, until then
lies and deception. We also need the governing bodies to be signed up to the FOI. Act. This cannot be allowed to continue.

Doc
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Cheers Mike, a judicial review asap. Until then it’s deny, deflect then ‘too long has passed’.

Devoy45
6 years ago

Fine piece of investigation and worthy of being sent to somebody who can actually do something. Excellent, well-done.

Friesdorfer
6 years ago

Wisnae Me,
I believe that “Airdieonians” were able to adopt that name again because all due legal process in regard to their liquidation was complete after a period of some 12 or 13 years, and there was no longer any legal impediment to them doing so.

Cartvale88
6 years ago

Rangers cheated and ultimately the house of cards came tumbling down in 2012. The real issue here is the compliant SFA and SPFL continuing with the current charade, they are supposed to officiate, not break the rules.
There second coming is beginning to go into meltdown, with friendly loans. Another share issue appears to be on the cards to keep them limping along into oblivion.
Look at the current attempt to find a new manager, could it be they hope the present incumbent makes a fist of it
So the caravan roles on, but the vampires are circling. Great article and facts on the Romanian club.
Sorry to hear about Liam Miller my prayers are with him

Ruralbhoy
6 years ago

Good article and research but of no use if no one notifies COSA and BDO ,would have to be a shareholder in Celtic or a creditor in liquidation at oldco.time to stop blogging and writing letters to the appropriate organisations or we will still be going round the house in another 5years .i will gleam facts from post and write to bodies but with little authority backing I will just be ignored as usual and no reply .but respect the work you have done

John Leckie
6 years ago

Good article,well written,making excellent points.Sadly I don’t think it will make the slightest difference as The SFA are in in cahoots with that mob to such an extent that any action would bring them both down.

Broxburnbhoy
6 years ago

Wonder if Matt Daly – super sleuth is on the case! Er probably not

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Broxburnbhoy

Who is Matt Daly?
Said in the voice of Quincy M.E.

Broxburnbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Isn’t he that rage bastard finthe BBC or did I get the name wrong ?

Bobby Russell
6 years ago
Reply to  Broxburnbhoy

Mark. or now known as No Mark

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Broxburnbhoy

BB,
I know who you meant m8

Broxburnbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti
Tyrone9
6 years ago

Excellent investigative work….no need for a judicial review as CAS have set a precedent & it is way above any authority Mr Nimmo Smith may have had.
I d still like titles stripped posthumously.

TicToc
6 years ago

I was unable to open the link in Doc’s post but hopefully this is it for anyone interested.

http://www.centrostudisport.it/PDF/TAS_CAS_ULTIMO/31.pdf

I’m snowed under with things I need to do at moment but encourage everyone/anyone to fire off an explanatory email with the link/PDF file to BDO for their information. The more who contact them the less chance they can ignore it. The cheating bastards have built a house of cards in RIFC plc/TRFC Ltd which will suffice for the ORCs, the SFA, the SMSM et al. We mustn’t let them get away with it.
I’d be too much of a hypocrite if I asked Dermott Desmond or Peter Lawwell to get involved but some of you, who trust them, may wish to ask them to ‘prove their colours’ here.
HH

Thai Tim
6 years ago

In your preamble you asked us readers to let you know what we think. Personally it is one of the best articles I’ve read on the subject of which there has been many. Well done!

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Thai Tim

Thai Tim,
Are you the same ‘ Thai Tim ‘ that was on Phil Mac’s blog a few threads back, asking for Celtic to ‘ move away ‘ from it’s ‘ Catholicness ‘?

Puggy67
6 years ago

I’m always torn between two principles that I hold dear. The first is that fairness and honesty should prevail in all circumstances, otherwise our society is nothing but a downward spiral into savegery and self-interest. The second is that I love to pish myself laughing at them. So if you could offer me the choice of ‘them’ being an Asada car park or the past 5 years of unbridled urianry incontinence as the lurch from bampot to scheister I’d struggle to chose. Good article.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Puggy67

🙂

FSTB
6 years ago

Any sane person knows full well that sevco 2012 sre a new football club .
The corrupt 5 way stitch up got the ball rolling regards THE BIG LIE .
All this has done is to drag the integrity of the Scottish game into the sewer .
Just so happens the sewer is exactly where the peepil involved in this farce dwell.
Trouble is they seem hell bent in dragging the rest of us down to join them.
We now have situation were a sizeable percentage of the old ragers supporters seem to believe that they have been victims of some sort of witch hunt against them and they are victims instead of the guilty .
I can only assume that the peepil thought that the ragers supporters were not grown up enough to deal with the truth and instead decided to just feed the rest of us with complete BS.
If they were afraid that the old ragers supporters would have just decided to do walking away as they had no appetite to follow a new club ,then as things stand just now ,all they seem to have done is given them a chip on their shoulder and 5 yrs of humiliation and it may all have been for nothing .

VooDude
6 years ago

Ralph, you know my thoughts on this whole shambles. You and I have spent many hours discussing this. What is needed, whether by you or one of your contributors, are contact details.

Many times I’ve formed an e:mail, only to struggle to find who to send it to.

If I could be so bold then I suggest you, or one of your knowledgeable followers, publish the relevant e:mail addresses so we can all send our thougts in the knowledge that they’ve reached their target.

Cheers bud.

D'Fhinnein Mick
6 years ago

Try again…
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DOC

Excellent work,sir! No-one involved in this charade has anywhere to hide after this exposé of events under the jurisdiction of the equivalent of the Supreme Court for Sport in Europe.

Makes little old innocent me wonder why our esteemed gentlemen of the press haven’t been all over it.

Great timing too. Just in time for the AGM. I hope someone brings it all to the attention of Dermot Desmond.

portpower
6 years ago

Great read Doc.

My reply to Wisnae me ended up in the ether???

David Longmuir’s the man who`s involved in all of this Airdrie shenanigans.

This same man handed sevco Scotland FC,rangers`(IL) history.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  portpower

And who has a ” house full of them ” ( huns )

portpower
6 years ago
Reply to  portpower

PS: Along with his pal,Jim Ballantyne.AKA Jimmy1690.

Doc
6 years ago

Big thanks for the comments. Glad to get an actual article on the site, hope it fits in with the quality stuff we’re used to reading on Etims. Thanks to Ralph for putting it on the site and for putting it together after I sent it in pieces.

TicToc
6 years ago

Contact details for anyone who’s up for bringing that shower into the light of ‘justice’.

Contact BDO: Joint Liquidators Malcolm Cohen and James Stephen – james.stephen@bdo.co.uk

Contact Celtic FC: – jptaylor@celticfc.co.uk

Contact CAS:
CAS Headquarters

Château de Béthusy
Avenue de Beaumont 2
CH-1012 Lausanne, Switzerland
Tel: (41 21) 613 50 00
Fax: (41 21) 613 50 01
General questions: info(at)tas-cas.org
Media enquiries: media(at)tas-cas.org
Filing of submissions and exhibits: procedures(at)tas-cas.org

I now need to catch up on what I’m really supposed to be doing.
HH

Frank McGaaaarvey
6 years ago

Very interesting indeed Doc. See what can happen when they get rid of an oppressive dictator from a countries regime? Now, if only we can get shot of the Caucescu of Scottish football but not until AFTER charges have been pressed in terms of collusion, corruption and the virtual culpable homicide of the game up here. And ALL for the sake of one new club.

TicToc
6 years ago

I posted addresses for contacting BDO, Celtic and CAS earlier; it’s ethereal just now, much like the ‘club’ we’re trying to bring out into the daylight and then consign to history
HH
PS no doubt addresses will turn up eventually.

Thomas Mccarthy
6 years ago

Hi montit still the talking shite
I heard the last time that you
We’re a Celtic park it was a
Ash park

Monti
6 years ago

Mensa alert Mensa alert

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