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Celtic Diary Friday September 15: Brendan’s New Order

Brendan Rodgers realised a lot more than perhaps met his eye during the five goal thriller against PSG the other night.

“The problems we had in the game were probably more mental than anything else,’

Perhaps this was indicative of that, from young Tony Ralston…

“I didn’t fear the likes of Neymar. I just knew I had to play my normal game.

“I prepared for facing him the way I’d prepare for any normal match. I did exactly the same routine. It’s just another man on the pitch you are playing against.

“I don’t put him on a pedestal. You just deal with it.” 

Whilst its a noble attempt to appear unfazed from the youngster, and perhaps its just inexperience, but when you are up against the most expensive player in world football history, the last thing you want to be doing is playing your normal game…

Otherwise you might be on the end of a bit of a doing.

Rodgers continued with his thoughts, and made it perfectly clear where he figured the problems lay..

‘It’s the mentality for me. I think for Celtic to qualify for the Champions League is huge in many ways, but that can’t be seen just to be the success.

‘I want us to go into the Champions League and then impose our way of playing and way of working.

‘I know we’re a million miles away financially from where other teams are at, but it still should allow us to compete.

‘Of course that takes a little bit of time to get that mentality across. It shouldn’t just be a celebration of us qualifying.

‘We know how huge it is for everyone. We know what it is for the nation to have that representation, but that just can’t be it. And it won’t be. It’s something we’ll learn from.

‘That was a humbling experience for them the other night.

With the pressure involved in the qualifiers, it may be expected for the side to take their foot off the pedal when the seasons main objective is reached.

Against Astana the job was done at home, and the ruthless Celtic of that opening period were promptly replaced by a side who drew with St. Johnstone and lost four and five goals in their next two European games.

The diary pointed this out yesterday, and Rodgers seems to back this theory up.

Something else at the back of my mind yesterday is the increasing amount of players signing new deals. Whilst stressing that this is not a bad thing, have more than one player had their heads turned by better money elsewhere, and has it rattled the harmony the dressing room ?

With Simunovic openly having his tantrum in Astana and getting his new deal, has the manager had to put in extra hugs for the other players, and keep their focus on the job at Celtic ?

If so, then credit to him, but the sooner we all get back on track the better.

Lets see the lean, mean, hooped machine of a month or so ago, and not that tentative troupe that took the field on Tuesday.

Rodgers reckons he knows where to find them…

“It won’t puncture the belief of the team,”

 “Maybe there is some background noise around, it will try to affect it – but that’s my job, to shape that mentality and take the lead with the players. They were bright today in training and back on it.

“Games like that the other
night are very humbling experiences against that level of team and that quality. But you strive, then, to be the best that you can and I think we’ve shown on a number of occasions that that’s the mentality we have. If it is to improve, we know we have to keep getting better.

“You can’t take away the human element of it. We have grown so much in a year and learned – but you have to respect that it’s a humbling experience to be up against guys who are worth £200 million and are in a team like 
PSG put together to win this competition.

“That can be difficult. I’m trying to build a mindset where success is not just qualification for the group stage. We wanted to qualify and fly the flag and that’s great. But we’re also in it to compete. But this will be like any defeat. The setback will provide the motivation going forward.

“The players will learn. They are very honest. When you have that honesty in defeat it helps you grow. It is a similar process [to when we lost 7-0 in Barcelona last season]. It is not just a click of the fingers.

“You have to have respect for what a footballer goes through and the whole expectation. It is a great tribute to our players that lots of people coming into the stadium the other night were thinking that we could maybe get something against that level of opponent. They showed what real top level football is.

“PSG would be better than most national teams. The array of talent there, the experience – that is world football at its very, very best. To have young guys from here playing against that is great and what we are trying to do is be competitive against them.

“Now we just want to get back into continuing with the good form we’ve been in. It’s been a really, really good start for us and we must never forget that. That’s the bigger picture. The team has made a brilliant start to the season. Of course there is a big emphasis on that game against PSG but the bigger picture is that we’ve made a good start in the league and we want to keep that going.”

There was a boost for the boss with the news that Dedryck Boyata and Moussa Dembele could feature against ross County tomorrow, and with nearly two weeks before the crucial trip to Brussels, then it  means we could be an entirely different side, mentally, physically and visually, that goes up against the Belgians.

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There is also room for improvement needed in Celtic’s home UCL form, and perhaps there is a need for a rethink on our image abroad..

Vice President of the Collectif Ultras Paris, Mika, told Le Parisien: “It was an incredible atmosphere. This was the best trip of my life.

“They are very welcoming. In every bar there were Celtic fans. Some of them even bought us pints.” 

Thats PSG fans talking about Celtic fans, which is all well and good, but you can be too nice to people. If they feel good, they sing and dance and encourage their team, who feel better about things and go on to win.

Celtic haven’t won a group game at home since 2013.

That’s shameful.

I’m not advocating outright hostility, but wee things like buses not running, beer tasting like wee wee-we;re almost there with that one-food thats cold and unpalatable-hang on, we’ve already put that plan into action.

I think you get my point.

Maybe the stewards could spend a little longer making their security checks, delaying thier entry until say half time.

Or perhaps there could be a shortage of hot food and drinks in their end of the ground, anything , in fact, that makes them not want to sing and dance.

Its bad enough the opposition players relishing the prospect of playing at Celtic Park, but when the fans look forward to it as well, we have a problem.

In the wider world of Scottish football, there was a couple of major surprises which show that our game isn’t corrupt or run for the benefit of a few that reside in their own little circle..

SFA chief warns refusal of Aberdeen’s new £50 million stadium could see games played in central belt.

That would be Stewart Milne’s Aberdeen, the same Stewart Milne who wants to move on from raking over coals and other menial tasks. This from the Herald..

ABERDEEN fans would face the “unthinkable” prospect of travelling to the central belt to watch the club playing in Europe – unless a new £50 million stadium and training complex goes ahead, a senior football figure has warned.

Andrew McKinlay, the Chief Operating Officer of the Scottish Football Association, said the club would be forced to move some ‘home’ Europa League games away from the Granite City causing local businesses and the Dons ‘a significant loss of revenue.’ He was speaking at a public hearing into a proposed new £50 million, 20,000 seater stadium proposed by the club and backed by the SFA for Kingsford, on the outskirts of the city.

Mr McKinlay said the current stadium faced “significant challenges” to comply with both domestic and Uefa regulations.

He said the pitch was struggling to gain more than a silver level standard in the SFA club licensing regime due to its smaller field dimensions and provisions for disabled supporters, media and uncovered spectator areas were also under scrutiny. 

Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he ? As long as Milne says what the SFA want him to say, even if it means alienating his core customer base.

Somehow, this is meant to show Aberdeen fans that the SFA are good guys who want to save them the hassle of travelling to Glasgow to host big games, something which the dandies will find a little hard to swallow.

Then there’s racist referee Douglas Ross, who presumably didn’t say what he was supposed to have said, decided on the SFA balance of probability law, which was applied to Alexander Tonev…

Football official and MP Douglas Ross will avoid formal action from the Scottish FA over controversial comments made in an interview.

The long-standing specialist assistant referee , who has officiated at national cup finals and matches at European and international level, is also the Conservative MP for Moray.

He was asked in an interview what he would do if he were prime minister for one day.

His answer, that he would “like to see tougher enforcement against gypsies and travellers”, was brought to the attention of Scottish football’s governing body.

As a professional assistant referee, Ross is subject to the same rules as players, managers and others who hold an official position within the game.

The matter was referred to the Scottish FA’s compliance officer who reviewed the comments and decided there was no case for a potential rule breach to be referred to an independent disciplinary panel.

The governing body’s regulations include a rule on “comments of a discriminatory or offensive nature”.

However, Ross was told that he was warned that he should pay attention to his language.

A Scottish FA spokesperson said: “Mr Ross had been reminded by the Compliance Officer that he should give careful regard to the Scottish FA’s disciplinary rules whilst under its jurisdiction.” 

Well, thats alright then.

A “long standing specialist referee “?

Thats not how I’d describe the little shit, but then again , I don’t work for STV.

When you consider the witch hunt around Leigh Griffiths for being seen in the company of Hibs fans singing about gypsies, one is tempted to think that there is one rule for one, and a blatant disregard of them for others.

Genuinely, you could construct a review of SFA misgovernance without even mentioning EBTs..

 

One for older fans…do you remember these?

Its Friday again, and its time for the original and best

Etims Knob of the Week 

This week, we have a true great when it comes to knobbery. He’s been quiet for a while, no doubt waiting for a cheque to clear from a special client, but yesterday he gracefully soared into the headlines again.

Consider this, from when he didn’t have to rely on that cheque…

 Then watch this video, courtesy of VideoCelts..

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You can clearly hear Traynor tell the assembled hacks that the “club was not liquidated”

What you cannot hear is the hacks saying “oh yes it was”-well, its in the process of liquidation, but we now have a situation where PR men tell reporters what to write, and they do so without question.

Thats a serious situation that editors need to address immediately in itself.

However, the fat controller exercised his control for the first time in a while, and he did it with such a callous disregard for the truth that he takes his rightful place as the

Etims Knob of the Week 

with a breathtaking example of saying what he’s paid to say.

Which is a kind of microcosm of Scottish sports journalism, I guess..

Well done, chubs, and hey-don’t be a stranger, we love it when you say what you gotta say..

 

From the bad guys to the good guys, and tomorrow, ahead of the game, do your best to support this, if you will…

ON Saturday September 16, 2017, pre-match at home v Ross County, a joint initiative between Celtic FC Foundation and our partner Glasgow NE Foodbank, will once again address issues of poverty and hunger in our society by collecting items and distributing to those in need.

As part of this specific collection, we are also teaming up with the Invisibles  a local voluntary organisation helping Glasgow’s homeless community and Refuweegee – a community-led charity set up to ensure that all refugees arriving in Glasgow are welcomed to the city in true Glaswegian style.

The Foundation has an existing relationship with the Invisibles and are also looking forward to working with Refuweegee, who are doing some great work in the city.

We would like to invite all supporters who are attending the match against Ross County to bring along a donation if they can – even one item from the list can make a huge difference to someone’s life.

Each of the organisations involved have requested items which they have a desperate need for at this time:

  • Adult men’s trainers that are no longer needed-  Size 6 upwards
  • Cartons of fruit juice
  • Notepads/notebooks
  • Letters fae the locals – your welcome message to someone arriving in Scotland
  • Shampoo
  • Shower gel
  • Scottish items – what’s your Glasgow/Scotland must share?
  • Teabags
  • Tinned fish
  • Tinned fruit and vegetables
  • Tinned pudding – Rice, custard, etc.

There will be three drop-off stations:  The clover on the Celtic Way is the main collection and the West and East entrance areas along Janefield Street will also be used. Please note that this is not a cash collection.

We would like to sincerely thank all Celtic supporters for their continued backing of Celtic FC Foundation’s initiatives, including this developing partnership with the local foodbank.

“Many cases of sheer poverty are left unaided through lack of means. It is therefore with this principle object that we have set afloat the “Celtic”

Brother Walfrid, November 1887. 

Do what you can, and mention it to your mates.

 

Yesterdays picture..

Olegblogkhing September 14, 2017 at 12:19 pm · Edit · Reply →

Caption: I believe that’s what they now call a Neymar. 

Today.. pretty much keeping with the theme..

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mike
6 years ago

Good comments there Ralphy, you just knew after the “move on ” rhetoric from the sheep shrew why and what his motive was.
Its good getting good players to sign new contracts but, sometimes its better to move one or two on, it freshens up the team and gets the motivation back, it doesn’t do to make them to complacent.
Buy in a couple of younger players and give the existing players some motivation. As far as Petrie’s concerned, he is just a self serving prick, you know that cos that’s what his own fans think.

mike
6 years ago

caption, suck on this, or that or another.

6 years ago

Caption: One snort of this and you won’t even remember we were liquidated.

charlie
6 years ago

big hauns says if thats a durex stick it on yer tongue before ye lick ma arse chubby a dont want ye infectin ma piles

charlie
6 years ago

a see theyr gonny crash that cassini probe intae saturn a hope they saturnans canny fight he he

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago

Rodgers talks bollocks about it being humbling playing against players “worth” £200 million.They aren’t worth that,it’s a modern obscenity.Ok,some billionaire (dodgy,allegedly)has paid those prices but massively overpriced.Not saying they are not great players,but humbling,no chance.Bet you £100 for charity that they don’t win the “champions” league.As for intimidating the opposition,it looks like those days are coming to an end.Even Celtic supporters are moaning about certain songs being sung and UEFA are on our case.No opposition player from abroad ever enjoyed playing in front of the Jungle,wonder why?

Gerry
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

With regard to the price tags I agree people are getting carried away; they may have cost £400m but are they a better front three than Messi, Eto’o and Henry? Are the midfield better than Xavi, Iniesta and Deco They are the elite now but no better than the past, we didn’t cry about price tags then, just had a go to the best of our ability. So get on with it and if you give your best I won’t complain; turn up scared and you shouldn’t pull on a Jersey!

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago

Caption: Mr.Green,care to buy this sweetie from Poundland,then you could claim you bought it and it’s history?…..

Mike Annis
6 years ago

Caption: The Fat Controller says: Here, sniff this and they will believe anything you say.

Desmond and the Dekkers
6 years ago

Caption: “shred it Jim, probably for the best eh”

ewanbhoy
6 years ago

our recent European form at home is down to us dropping down a level on the playing field and that takes time to correct but we are on the right road now so dont need to panic and i dont buy into this notion that we need to become unpleasant and nasty to visiting teams to try and upset them. when i have traveled abroad with Celtic i have always found that we bond well and have a great time with the local fans and that is exactly the way we should be when they come here. you win on the park and you lose on the park and that is all down to the players but i pride ourselves on being the best fans in the world and that also means being the friendliest too.

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

Walk into a bar full of Ultras in Paris and see if they buy you a beer? As Ralph stated,if you kick them they fall down.Barcelona away(can’t seem to remember the score),Celtic officially became the cleanest team in World football.The other night,5 fouls?In their faces?Nope,too busy being humble.As a wise man stated ‘Let’s bring back the thunder!’ Wonder what the atmosphere will be like at Liebrox?….

maryhillbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

Fuck me Rob so the master plan for beating a team of players assembled at ridiculous expense because they are highly rated by the footballing world is to kick and they will fall down!!!! well that’s fucking enlightened and forward thinking. Cant see any issues with that if we go down to 9 or 10 men for part of the match and all of the next one due to the inevitable red cards and suspensions.
Oh and whilst we are at it lets make things miserable for their fans because that will inhibit the technique skills and attitude of their superstar eleven on the park ffs.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

Stop slagging Ralph, they’re his ideas. i think he meant a wee challenge or two wouldn’t go amiss and the big teams seem to enjoy the Parkhead experience a bit better than Celtic.However if you want the prize for being nice…

Broxburnbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

Exactly Maryhill – I think Rob must have his tongue firmly in his cheek

Bognorbhoy
6 years ago

Caption

Hey chic dae yea fancy a chiclet..

Danny Bhoy
6 years ago

Caption:
Fat Controller ‘Pre-match routine? After eating 8 pies it’s always good to suck on a mint, it pays to be dignified’

6 years ago

Will make no comment on the game the other night. but footbll as we know it has changed radically again due to the corruption of PSG. I cannot believe that this monstrosity gets any praise as obviously they will be good, if you flout the rules and rely on money you never earn then you will win. But that is not sport. European Football and English premier league football is no longer for fans in the countries where it is played, it is designed purely to sell TV packages to the rich of the Middle East, China and India. This helps various companies flog their rubbish to hundreds of millions of spectators who quickly become bored with it after a season or two and are replaced by others who do the same. For me it is all over and I am giving up. For Celtic the PSG situation is more disastrous than for many other clubs. We will have a shot at the CL, once maybe twice more, before we are uninvited due to our inability to compete. The group stages are not that popular outside of the areas where actual supporters live. Read the comments section in many newspapers down south and more often that not the view is it only becomes interesting once the ‘garbage’ is dismissed. For most of us it is the opposite. I have not seen a CL game not involving Celtic for years. I don’t subscribe to any sports channel except Celtic TV and am simply not interested. But not being involved in the top tier will be a huge blow to us and the closure of a great chapter in our history. We will not even make the second tier because some very big clubs are going to find that they cannot afford to compete at the top level and will be forced out. This will end up in a few years with an invite only European Super League, featuring about 12 uber rich clubs. 2 from Spain, 2 from Italy, 3 from England, 2 from France, 2 from Germany and 1 from Russia/ Ukraine. All of these clubs will be sponsored by corporations/rich businesses or individuals. Clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Dortmund, Ajax and Celtic. Clubs with history, traditions, fantastic support and great stadiums will not be included unless they sell their souls and go looking for money from the gulf or other countries. These huge institutions will become the second level while they scrabble around for investment to get into the top tier. We will be further down the pecking order. Now this is a bigger disaster for us than it will be for the kikes of Liverpool and Dortmund as they will still have their domestic competition. We do not have this. Unless you accept the small-minded view that beating whatever plays at Ibrox is still entertainment. We are literally in limbo land. This reduces our ability to sign a decent manager or players. The product will weaken and crowds will inevitably go down. I know I am a miserable sod but you would need to be blind not to see what is coming. The Spaniards are already talking about it because they have benefited from UEFAs weakness as they have ignored tax evasion and state aid for Barca and Madrid for years. They will do the same for PSG. With the current political situation between Qatar and the Gulf States another load of cheating scum, FC Abu Dhabi of Manchester will be looking for any way that they can to become the first club to sign a 250 million pound player (possibly Neymar). Neymar has only been signed by PSG so that he can act as an Ambassador and promote the hideous, slave built world cup in Qatar. No one wants to play by the rules and spend money they earn, they are all looking for ways to game the sport towards them. Exactly the same as cycling, except with money. Everyone knows you cannot win the Tour de France without doping, Bradley Wiggins is a cheating scumbag but his team have tried to cover it up (asthma my fat arse) now in football it will be who can get the most cash. Personally, I Want no part of it any more. It is contemptible. There will never be another Lisbon Lions, we all knew this already, but who will ever win the Big One again with such glory? How much enjoyment can you get winning trophies knowing that the only reason you have done it is because your rich owners have used their cash to weaken your opponents. I thought I would die being an active Celtic supporter but I will not. I don’t want to watch us winning meaningless league trophies against poor opposition and I don’t want to sit at Celtic Park watching corrupt football clubs who are not a hundredth of ours dismantle and humiliate us every September to December. I await an alternative because I am sure I will miss it.

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,you are stating the depressing truth eloquently…..

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
There is fuck all meaningless about winning trophies!
Put your dummy back in & back the team!

john young
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

john “through adversity you win” if everyone walks away then the cheats have truly won,of course we can,t win the CL but we can continue to evolve and grow in Scotland,we create the blueprint for youngsters to make their living in their chosen sport thus enhancing their lives,we do wonderful things for those less fortunate through our great charity deeds,we are a positive force in this world,we mean so much to so many so fcuk the C/L there are other more important issues in Celtics journey.”Fath of our Fathers.”

Lavvy1888
6 years ago
Reply to  john

great post John, sad but true

Patrickqu
6 years ago
Reply to  john

Brilliantly written and absolutely true. Football is corrupt and you have hit the nail right on the head. Bravo.

Rebus67
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,

Consider a club like Hamilton or PT in our top league. The gulf between them and the top two in Scotland is significant. However, occasionally they swing an upset! That is what makes football interesting. Celtic are minnows against the financial might of the Barcelonas of this world but, just now and again, we get a result versus such clubs. It is ever so, and will always be so. It is what cup competitions are all about…..giving the underdog a chance. Occasionally it happens and we all experience such joy! Most went to the psg game with that hope, as we did last year against MC.

Giants can fall. Just ask David how he felt standing over Goliath.

Rebus

jimmybee
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John probably the best post i have read m8

BondiBrian
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

David v Golith is pure fiction, although ah get the analogy. Buster Douglas V Tyson???? Anyhoo…MON THE HOOPS!!!!

Broxburnbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  john

Another missiv dismissing reality and withdrawing from it. Winning trophies in Scotland has been a Celtics bread and butter since we were formed. We won the big cup once and made the final again. We it to EUFA cup final too. All based on winning trophies in our domestic league. Are we all saying we have to win the CL and the rest of what we do is meaningless? BS. Clubs with money a fact now let’s deal with it. It either legal or illegal- seems to be legal for now anyway so our only option is to play our best in Europe. Also to win all of our domestic games. If you think life is fair John then think again. Life is life deal with it

Honest Hoops
6 years ago

Caption; this is the last fiver….I’ll spend it wisely….2 beers and 2 pies…what do you want Chic? …

Monti
6 years ago

This guy who invaded the pitch at the PSG has apparently been getting death threats and all other sorts threats.
The young guy has made a mistake, it wll cost the club and he was stupid.
Death threats though? Fuck that, he doesn’t deserve that, he is a twenty one year old boy who fucked up, did we not all do something bad or fuck up in our youth?
I think the guy is an arsehole for doing what he did, fucking stupid…..but death threats? He doesn’t deserve that, by all accounts he isn’t a problem kid, he has made a mistake, he has been punished for it and i assume the guy will feel ashamed.
Give him a break!

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

He’s from Belfast,he’ll be ok.Wonder what the SFA did about that Hun who tried to attack Broonie? The Cup Final two years ago ,yeah,that was an invasion but one drunk Bhoy running on and playing like Lustig? Just slightly silly,on the drink.The guy that punched him should be in the jail,polis and stewards were easily dealing with the wee guy.

maryhillbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

Playing like Lustig? Rob gies a fucking break

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

Was sort of joking?

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  ROB O'KEEFFE

No in fact he was utter crap

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

2/10 seems fair……

jimmybee
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Agreed Monti the young lad was clearly pissed and will be devasted that he now cant see his beloved hoops. It was a mistake by the lad and doesnt deserve death threats ffs.

Mcdeeje1
6 years ago

Ffs Charles at least sir David gave me mint sauce wi ma lamb!
Times change Jim lad… it’s mutton pies and mints all the way now son.
You do realise ya twat were not actually Rangers.

Jim McClure
6 years ago

Caption

Its Colombian Charlie

Bognorbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Jim McClure

Boom ..winner.

Anthony
6 years ago

Caption

“Pie flavour chewing gum Charlie?”

The real Anton Rogan
6 years ago

Caption: Ah bet you a fiver I can convince those bigotted fuckwits that its still the same club.

mike
6 years ago

You cannot judge that PSG will go all the way to win the C.L. this season, based on one game, one team (Celtic) playing at 25% capacity more than half our team did not turn up, so how can you judge there performance.
Sadly John has hit the nail on the head about financial doping and about us being in the worst of all positions, others have tried that from Scotia. buying success backed by HBOS, only to be beaten by a bigger cheat.
FFP was supposed to deal with financial doping, but you can see clearly that the governing bodies are as corrupt as our own national body.
So what do we do, roll over, accept that we can NEVER compete or do we continually try to improve within our financial constraints.
I still remember the shock and horror when Denmark won the European final, a much unfancied team, but that is the beauty of sport, sometimes the under dogs can win.
A wee Nation, a wee league, a wee mentality, but a Nation that can more than pull its weight within the World, given the chance.

mike
6 years ago

Couldny stand the shite that came out of Tony Blair, but he did one or two great things, the one that he missed out on was the British league, not National teams but a league made up of all Nations within Britain, that is what D.D. was trying to achieve, us competing in the EPL. Twa’s the only game in town for us.
Even in our diddy league the governing bodies are trying to take T.V. cash from Celtic to disperse among the lower teams, far to lazy to get of their arse to bring more money into the game.
I started this morning my usual chirpy chappie, but my day is going downhill fast.

mike
6 years ago

BTW the boy who aimed a kick at the PSG player comes from Armagh, it was hardly the crime of the century, its a pity our players did not join him.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Correct, too busy being humble

mike
6 years ago

Caption, Would you care for a denial pill?

jimmybee
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Brilliant 🙂

6 years ago

Monti it is maningless because their is no challenge. Ihave no idea if PSg will win the CL this season but they will continue to spend until they do. I would posit that them winning the CL makes the tournament worthless as they have achieved little without the cash from a corrupt Qatari government, who care little about football and sport. When we win in Scotland we are not recognised because essentially winning in Scotland against very poor opposition amounts to little. Winning trophies in Scotland is meaning less because the world says it is. Football is about recognition for winning, not the winning itself. And we will not get recognition because we play no one. The teams we play cannot get into European competitions proper. Over the past 30 years Scottish football has became an object of ridicule. there is no escaping this. Oh how I wish it was different. And although we earn every penny, the financial gap means our opponents cannot compete. Again detracting from any achievements we gain. There is no getting away from this. We suffer from our proximity to our neighbours. But they now see our league as more League of Ireland or Wales than EPL. Us saying to hell with them and we enjoy our victories does not make them any more valuable. Believe me this is something which concerns Brendan Rodgers, and he is right to question the mentality of the club and its supporters. But he needs to take his share of the blame. I do not see him being at Celtic beyond this year as what is there for him to do. He must see that getting out of the groups is now virtually impossible. Being the first manager to win back to back trebles will be enough for him and he will take a job in the EPL. I am afraid that Bilic gets the bullet from West Ham and Rafa gets out of Newcastle. I think Rodgers would seriously consider the Newcastle job. Getting them to safety like Rafa and then challenging to get them into Europe would appeal to Rodgers and he would be given money not available to him at Celtic. Rodgers is all about progress But is progress possible at Celtic. It is at a club like Newcastle. hanging around at Celtic winning trophy after trophy where no one outside Glasgow is remotely interested but getting recognised for record defeats every season will damage, not enhance his reputation.

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
” It is meaningless because there is no challenge “?
Oh dear….i think your mask just slipped son!

Monti
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

John,
To say Celtic’s achievements are meaningless is absolute fucking nonsense, undermining any worthwhile posts you made earlier.
I’m sure Brendan isn’t only here to enhance his reputaion, i’m sure he’s trying to enhance Celtic’s first and foremost.
Give the manager and his players some fucking credit for what they have given us.

I for one appreciate all their efforts!

Bongo
6 years ago

Traynor passes Green a note of what it would cost to get rid of McCoist – as they can’t talk with him standing between them

mike
6 years ago

Meaningless perhaps in the C.L. sense, but it will never be meaningless to me that Celtic continue to win titles and trophies. By trying to reach the C.L. qualifiers and by acheiving that will continue to make our club better and stronger and no one can read the future, who know what will happen, its a waiting and watching game, being ready to spot an opportunity whenever it comes and to take it.
If in some way we can reach out to that massive audience World wide that has Celtic connections in America or elsewhere that may be the opportunity for the future.

6 years ago

Mike, Reach out to do what? Sell the entire club to Coors to advertise the beer and buy our way into the CL top division? I don’t understand. Is that really an alternative sell ourselves and become unrecognisable in order to be like PSG or Man City? Maybe, in American style relocate the entire club to a purpose built stadium in New Jersey and become New Jersey Celtic but play in the CL as we are good for sponsorship? I don’t know what reaching out to the massive audience in the USA would do? We are already doing this any way and I am not sure that every Irish American would be that interested. Most Americans, Irish or others, still hate ‘soccer’.

Una
6 years ago

I have a bad feeling about the sevco game next week, i think things are starting change,the way its going it won’t be 7 never mind 10.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  Una

Thanks Una, watch them tonight, you’ll sleep easy, they’re garbage

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  ROB O'KEEFFE

Told you Una,utter rubbish.Only got a draw because Thistle got man sent off,don’t worry,be happy.KTF

jimmybee
6 years ago
Reply to  Una

Can’t see why you would be worried our team is far superior to any of the rest in Scotland.

mike
6 years ago

John, nobody can predict the future, we do not know what the future for football is, we can judge where its going and your argument is sound, but sometimes unexpected things happen. As you say financial doping is going on now, but for just a few rich clubs, I do not believe for one minute that the vast majority of the other clubs are just going to sit back and be denied any kind of future, somewhere somehow they will be waiting to see how this effects them and making contingency plans for alternatives.

6 years ago

I understand what you are saying Mike. And hopefully we keep winning. But as the years go on less and less people will be interested as it becomes a procession. When we one 9 in a row our average attendances some years were about 30,000. And as I have mentioned earlier. Winning in sport is all about recognition. We will get no recognition for winning the league and therefore go unrecognised. We have even been criticised for not winning everything in Scotland in recent seasons as we should have done so. As well as the money players and managers want the glory an if there is no glory an little cash then what is there?

mike
6 years ago

That is true John, its happening already, you can see the interest waning already, the only thing that will drive the club forward and D.D. interest going will be the 10inarow. But that target will keep the interest going until hopefully some other targets appear.
We HAVE to believe there is no other game in town.

George Lazenbhoy
6 years ago

Caption, you’re going to need something stronger than a mint to clear the smell of shit eminating from your mouth

greenmaestro
6 years ago

Looks like Traynor passing round biscuits
“Anyone for an Orange Club?”

6 years ago

I agree with you totally Mike. The other big clubs are not going to sit back and take it but neither are they going to sit back and wait for a corrupt organisation like UEFA applying their own rules. UEFA is more corrupt than any government on earth. The Qataris have bought FIFA and now are buying UEFA. They are also influencing football in France. At the moment, they have a never-ending supply of cash, I say at the moment because apparently even the Gulf states realise that the oil will not last for ever. They have introduced VAT, taxation of any kind for the first time as they realise they are going to need alternative funding. The Qataris have clearly bribed someone in France as being allowed to buy PSG, allows them to buy a club without building them a stadium. Neymar’s signing is to promote the WC. Remmber Qatar getting the World Cup was met with a wave of revulsion across the world, before the corruption involved in this deal was exposed. they still have the WC and are building stadiums by working slaves to death. UEFA reaction . Nothing. Qatar should never be allowed to host the WC yet, not only are they allowed to do so the entire world footballing world is to be rearranged to allow this to happen. The Qataris love this as they now realise the power they have. International football has been on the wane for many years. The Qatar WC will see it damaged irreparably for good. But qatar don’t care, they do not have a team of any note. But PSG’s band of mercenaries will become the defacto Qatari national team. If these dodgy thieving swines thought they could get away with it they would award Qatari citizenship to the top 20 players in the world and simply train them for 2 years solely to win the world cup. I am surprised they have not done this. Believe me they have considered it. PSG will represent Qatar on the world stage. If they win the CL, when they win it, either this year or next. the players will do a lap of honour flying waving Qatari flags. They will be contractually obliged to do so. What is happening at the moment an the decisions being taken by the uber clubs will alter and distort the game on so many levels it will be difficult to keep up. It is a diferent level to the hundreds of millions split between the EPL. You don’t invest this amount of money and not get your own way. Barca, Real, Bayern, etc etc etc are all currently thinking about ‘alternative’ financing. Does that mean applying secretly to their own governments for State Aid or going to corrupt oil rich nations for the same. City and PSG, two clubs who are not top clubs in Europe, are already there. the others will follow. The gloves are truly off.

mike
6 years ago
Reply to  john

We tend to think that the EPL is this huge league, it is but only up to a relative degree, think about the Ruski’s corrupt as well but nobody can pull the wool over there eyes. The Americans sorted again up to a point FIFA, when big countries start looking at UEFA and are watching FIFA and see something that doesn’t suit them, they will act.
btw Real have been accused of accepting state aid as have other clubs so you are right, but watch out the Chinese are coming, the corruption is endemic in south Asia so all eyes will be on everyone, vested interest are watching. My heart goes out to Celtic caught in a shithole league surrounded by bigots and with a corrupt association, trapped a big body auld of soul an innocent caught up in the stink of bigotry and corruption.

Frank McGaaaarvey
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

John, you sum up the corruption in European and World football very eloquently. Can’t argue with the points you make re FFP, FIFA and UEFA with regards to Qatari oil money and the awarding of football’s premier tournament to a nation with such a rich footballing ‘history’. I can see why you may be scunnered with the Champions League and the elite few who have money to burn who, thanks to UEFA fumbling with the qualifying set-up again, will be given free reign in the CL while clubs with proud histories like us who happen to be from smaller countries (hence less of a TV target audience) are left to beg for scraps from the side. All of the above is indisputable BUT…

Why would you ever want to stop supporting your beloved Hoops? From what I gather you have been going to games longer than I have even been on this planet. I know we have been given the runaround the past 5 years with regards to the continuity myth, EBTs and an incompetent and corrupt governing body. To give up on Celtic right now, and give up on seeing young Lhads and true supporters like Tierney, Ralston et al donning the jersey is surely deserting us when we need support the most. Supporters giving up on us now means the club will suffer and will be dragged down to the level of the rest of Scottish football. At least if we maintain our current status we will be able to benefit from any possible future fairer revamps of European football. I know that may be wishful thinking on my part but when the alternative is giving up altogether then I will keep on keeping on.

Keep The Faith CSC.

mike
6 years ago

Did you see ambulance last night?

Caller.. ambulance please, my daughter has blood pouring out of her rectum, she isn’t pregnant, its coming out of her bum, she’s definitely not pregnant.
Oh wait a minute a head’s appeared, hahaha.

BJF
6 years ago

Scottish football has been devalued for sometime and it’s not just the fault of the other clubs other than Celtic. Ironically we are part of the problem because our club is effectively managed and our only my potential rivals were corrupt and eventually liquidated, I frankly cannot see their replacement ever getting out of their self created financial mire but that’s their problem.
I doubt if the current financial investment via TV and foreign moguls is viable for ever and if it hits the rocks those clubs with a sustainable financial base linked to the game e.g Celtic, Liverpool, Newcastle might prosper again.
Meantime keep winning the trophies, keep getting into the Group stages and use it to jump into the Europa League, eventually we will get an easier draw.

BJF
6 years ago

Sorry to post again so soon but just caught Lee Wallace’s defence of Pedro, apparently it is all BR’s fault or rather BR gets favourable treatment from the Scottish media, fair play tot he guy he is trying to create a grievance. We at Celtic have run for some time with grievances e.g Resolution 12. It has had a shelf life of 5 years so far because it is a genuine grievance and that will be the test of Pedro’s unfair treatment, even the biased Scottish media know he is not up to the job, long may he remain in post, but I suspect this grievance like Pedro won’t last long.

6 years ago

BJF I am not saying you are wrong but we have all been saying this for over 20 years. But the game has just changed again. It is not multi-national TV companies and multi-billionaire criminals that are buying clubs it is oil rich countries. As Arsene Wenger pointed out in despair ‘it is a whole different ball game when a country owns a football club’. It is not going to hit the rocks anytime soon. I remember people saying this about the EPL, ‘it will not last 5 years’, ‘too much money’ but have you seen the customers they have in india and China alone. The game is not for you. It is for TV fans in Asia and the Middle East. That is nearly 3 billion customers. They are not interested in Celtic vs Anderlecht. They want Real vs Bayern followed by PSG vs Barca. And they want it every week. Hence the invitational league of 12 teams, who will all withdraw from their national leagues and play 44 games a season. Perfect. Every week big superstar players will play against each other and billions of pounds will be spent. The Chinese will buy a few of these clubs and advertisers will have a huge audience for their rubbish. The sport? Who cares? Some fans will actually support individual players. They already do. It is an alien version of football to us but it will be the future. I have been in various places in the Middle East lately, including the Gulf. Neymar’s face is everywhere. He is flogging absolutely everything. Messi gets about as well. Alternative financing will be the order of the day. Clubs will not be limited to TV money or billionaire cash. If Qatar and Abu Dhabi can buy a team why not Bahrain and Oman. Why can’t the German government set up a sports fund and give 1 billion euros to Bayern Munich to represent Germany on the World Stage. We don’t know what is going to happen but a return to simpler times is unlikely.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  john

Better off at the golf or bowls, much more fun. Going for FORE!

dziekanowski's nightclub child
6 years ago

Caption: This is where I keep Han Solo

BJF
6 years ago

Fair point John, I am instinctively an optimist although I don’t think things will return to the past, just that the current arrangements are unsustainable and we need to take advantage of whatever happens next.

Devoy45
6 years ago

John, although it might seem pessimistic, you speak the truth and I can’t disagree with most of what you say. The Qatari regime is corrupt and oppressive. Most of us would give up our trophies if we were bought by a Russian oligarch or oil sheik. European and World football are as corrupt as any dictatorship: bribes, backhanders, deals done in smoke-filled rooms. My hope was/is that Celtic could slay Goliath and strike a blow for a certain type of football club that remains outside the corridors of power. What’s worse is that our own football association is as corrupt as FIFA or UEFA. Solutions? “King Christ the world is all afloat and life preservers? There are none.”
I feel powerless and can only support the team in front of me in the league and country we are in. It would do world football a great service if Celtic could prove that there are some things money can’t buy. That was true in 1967 but can it be true today? Soon, the Champion’s League will be full of rich teams that finished 4th or 5th in their own filthy rich leagues. Whatever else, unlike PSG, we are Champions in our own league and it is supposed to be a ‘Champion’s’ League!

6 years ago

When Celtic won the European Cup in 1967 there was a cheer of relief from UEFa as some believed that Celtic had saved football in Europe from becoming the boring catenacchio dominated preserve of a few big clubs. It was a victory for football. across Europe fans were delighted as a team, not just the underdog but a team playing attractive, attacking, flair football had won it, and they were from outside the political cabal who had dominated the game since the 50s. The Inter Milans and Real Madrids had too much say over how the game was run. Oh how things have changed. Now it is the owners of hese clubs who dictate and UEFA does their bidding.

jimmybee
6 years ago

Caption: i use theese for freshness after talking shite all day you want 1

Stephen From Erskine
6 years ago

Caption…..
“yes, that’s another home tie for The Rangers sorted”

Iancelt67
6 years ago

A guy called Kerry packer did the same thing with crickey in Australia. He got the best of the best the “freaks” of cricket took them away from the established order of being ” one of a kind amongst journeyman ” and created a circus. Murdoch with his money did it with football, now it’s bored oil sheiks or rich Thais messing with what was a true world game. Barca real and psg are now cherry picking “freaks” like Neymar Messi and Ronaldo and in essence bringing the sport into disrepute. Salary caps now must be brought in before the game is completely ruined and the real fan will resort to watching grass roots football because they will be priced out of anything else.

Go back ten twenty years there were never blow out scores like 7-0 or 5-0 in European games. Maybe they should bring the old rules back when you could tackle from behind and give the odd stiff elbow to some pretty boy pirouetting and taking the piss to get the balance back. Maybe the Scottish game is a he new way fwd. I’m mad by the way

BondiBrian
6 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Perhaps thats a reason UFC is taking over from boxing as a spectacle, we all kknow bxing is largely fixed. IMO the PSG of this world are as much a commercial entity as coca cola. Correct but depressin read on the comments the day. Still great ti be a Tim

Devoy45
6 years ago

Lancel67, you may be mad but you’re pretty sane. I enjoy watching football amateurs for the reasons you say. I suppose, to the Barcas and PSGs, we are amateurs—that is, gallus footballers who still tackle like Broonie and Ralston. No wonder the Neymars won’t shake their hands.

Iancelt67
6 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy jinky and best Baxter and cruyff never had a problem eliciting their skills back in the day playing against brutes. I think we’ve gone backwards and now we are producing beta male pretty boys as a poster boys for the game.i hate it and am becoming sick of it. I don’t want to see broken legs and guys being put to pasture and retiring early. But the balance has been lost somewhere .

Iancelt67
6 years ago

I think we had a good product. Rule changes and the Bosman has fucked the game no end. Brazil getting beat 7-0 in a World Cup in their own patch is way beyond what anyone could have predicted. We are now punch drunk happy entertainers to this with our great atmosphere. I for one, if I was over there wouldn’t participate at such an unlevel playing field. The game is now played with insipid rules set in place to facilitate such skulduggery . It used to be a mans
Game with a blend of skill and physicality, now it’s just a collection of ridiculously skilled ballerinas flaunting men’s lingerie. Fuck it I might start watching rugby league

jimmybee
6 years ago

Welcome back Kolo, a great move by the club.
I think the more players of this calibrate we get back the better.
For me players like Kolo Naka Lubo etc etc should be targeted to get the technical ability installed into our young generation.
Wouldn’t it be great if 11 young academey players lined up against the money monsters in the champions league.
. Even if we did lose heavily on he field, it would be a moral victory off it. This for be should be where the money goes.
CELTIC Football Club are delighted to confirm that Kolo Toure has joined the club as Technical Assistant, as part of the club’s coaching team.
Kolo will be part of the club’s football management team, supporting on all first-team coaching matters, as well as using his knowledge, experience and expertise to assist across the club’s various youth levels.
The club are delighted to be able to call on the experience of a man who has performed at the highest level of football for so many years.
Brendan Rodgers said: “This is great news for Celtic that we are able to bring a man of Kolo’s experience into our coaching team. In everything he does, he is quite simply a fantastic example to anyone.
“He has worked at the top of the game for so many years and he has all the qualities which any player of any age should aspire to. He is a fantastic role model for our younger players and someone who has a level of experience and knowledge which can only be invaluable to our established players.”
“We are delighted that we will benefit from this experience and I know will make a real contribution to the club in this role.”
Celtic Chief Executive, Peter Lawwell added: “We are delighted to welcome Kolo back to Celtic.I know he really enjoyed being part of our success last season and that he loves being part of the club.
“We are pleased that once again, is part of our team and we are sure he will add real value to Celtic as we aim for more success.”
In an exclusive interview with Celtic TV confirming his appointment Toure said: “I couldn’t be happier to be back at this great club.
“This is a new chapter in my career, a new beginning. The football is over now. I can officially say I am retired from playing and now I am fully concentrating on coaching.
“For me there is no big change in terms of what I will be doing. I have always been the kind of player who tries to help those around me.
“Now I will try to give advice, help the young players and just guide them and pass on all the experience I have acquired during my career.”
He added: “I can learn so much from working with Brendan Rodgers, he is a top manager. I will be working with him and his staff very closely each day.
“He is one of the best young managers in the world right now. What he’s doing for Celtic is there for all to see, he’s doing amazingly right now.”
To read more from Kolo Toure’s exclusive interview, pick up next week’s Celtic View, out Wednesday, September 20.

Frank McGaaaarvey
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Totally agree Jimmy. Having someone with his wealth of experience on board helping our youngsters is great news. You only have to read Kieran Teirney’s comments on him last season to know what a great example he set to everyone with regards to training and self-improvement. He will also help us get the best out of his compatriot Kouassi Eboue as well, although he unfortunately can’t administer a miracle cure for his injuries.

BTW, it looks as if you are advertising the Celtic View with the cut and paste at the bottom of your post! Don’t know what Ralph will have to say about product placement on his site 🙂

mike
6 years ago

The mark of a true supporter, one who turns up week after week to watch his local team, but then you had “Rangers” and Celtic, two teams who attracted supporters based on your religion, that is a sad fact and I am as guilty as the next one, but it certainly doesn’t apply to everyone. If like me you were brought up Catholic, I cannot remember exactly how I ended up following Celtic, perhaps it came from school or my pals it certainly never came from my parents who were not interested in football. But I was attracted to the club perhaps because of the strip but I do not think so, it must have been because of my school, like most I loved fitba. lived it and breathed it, couldny wait to don the school strip. All green top and white shorts, underage I captained the second eleven wearing an all white strip (Real Madrid). To this day I still share a passion for a club that I fell in love with, the majical club that produced the Lions, my Seville strip lies in a drawer waiting for me until i’m finished deed. Hail Hail to the Celtic one of histories finest fitba. club, I will always be in your debt for the pride and the pleasure you gave me.

jimmybee
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike what gives me great pride is the fact that we are a club open to all.
My fathers best m8 was a mountain of a man.
He was also the president of our csc
Only in my later years did i get to know him better.
A son of church of scotland minister he came from a very loyal orange background.
He started working with my dad and they became inseparable.
When my dad asked what team he supported he said motherwell. On a saturday morning as celtic were playing the well my father asked him if he would like to travel with them on the csc bus. Would it be ok he asked of course my father said you will get humped anyway.
Anyway as no segregation was deployed outside the old firm he travelled along with them.
They stood in the traditional lanakshire end though commonly known as the rangers end, which was never acknowledged as such by our members.
He came back a Celtic fan.
He was hooked and drove home to me constantly he would say its a protestant country your hated never let them beat you wee man.
It is this and the likes of big john that makes us different and im so glad it does a club like no other.HH to those brave protestant men.

mike
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Another great true story from you jimmy, thank you once again for sharing it, hail hail to big John, we all share a passion, the passion of the Celtic, once it gets into your heart it can never be denied and hail hail to your da a great Tim and he sounds like a brilliant faither. You are right it doesn’t matter what faith you are once the Tic. come calling, so hail hail to every supporter of all faiths and none, that Celtic DNA.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago

This all started in the 70s when Scottish players started to head South for considerably higher wages….

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