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Resolution 12: Get Your Cameras Ready, He’s Going Down

The Craig Whyte trial is over. The man is innocent on all charges, a result which became apparent when the prosecution witnesses didn’t have anything to say that was likely to lead to a prosecution.

Even if it did take a few weeks for them not to say it.

So, in order to get the story behind the trial, have a read of this, a summation by court reporter James Doleman, so we all know where we are at as we move on to the next bit.

Whyte Trial

Got that ?

Good.

Ah, no, there’s one or two not read it yet…I’ll wait…

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Ready…then I’ll continue..

 

The conclusion of the trial means that the rest if us can move on.

For example, Alastair ” Surrender, No ” Johnston has accepted a place on the board of “rangers “, five years after his tenure at the original Rangers came to an end, which was shortly before the original Rangers came to an end.

There is a five year rule about being a director after you’ve been involved in an insolvency event at one company preventing you from repeating those mistakes at another.

Happily for Johnston, he’s served his time and can now help his former Rangers boardroom colleagues Dave King and Paul Murray make an arse of things at the new “rangers “.

The rats are returning to the ship, in the belief that it didn’t sink after all.

Except, of course, we know it did, and despite their wonderful rhetoric about history and going for 55, reincarnation remains something for storybooks.

Three of the board that killed Rangers are now in place on the board of the new club.

Thats your SFA fit and proper persons rule at work.

And the support ?

Surely they can see that they are about to be bent over again and have their pockets picked ?

Shouldn’t the SFA be protecting them, a large part of the customer base that contributed to  a group turnover of £35.8m last year ?

Maybe the press should be asking questions, exerting pressure, demanding answers ?

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Doesn’t look like it.

At least one of them is in full deflector mode, along with Stewart Regan at the SFA, who , himself should be answering a few questions.

 Ah, look.

He is still alive, and in one of his rare excursions into the public domain, Stewart Regan tried to keep the pressure on Whyte, now, of course, a man innocent beyond all doubt of any crime.

Regan said;

“I think the situation that has unfolded over five years is regrettable. It was a unique set of circumstances that was presented to everybody involved at the time and we dealt with it in the best way we could. 

“We considered the facts, we considered the issues and we took advice, and we came up with what in our view were the right steps.” 

“The fact that five years on we are still talking about it shows just how long the process has taken. It has had a telling effect on Scottish football.

“We found Craig Whyte not to be a fit and proper person several years ago. He won’t be coming back, he won’t be involved with any football club, he won’t be involved with any member of the Scottish FA.

“The rules and regulations are very clear. They have been strengthened in recent years.” 

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Strengthened to the point where Dave King, convicted of 41 counts of fraud is a “fit and proper person ” ?

To the point where there are now three members of the old Ibrox board riding around the car park singing “Back in the saddle again” ?

Regan claims that he will “take advice ” on whether or not to pursue Whyte for a fine handed out for “bringing the game into disrepute, proving that irony can be pretty ironic sometimes,

“That will be something we take advice on and, should the opportunity present itself, we would definitely consider that,”

“There’s been a series of cases and challenges as far as Craig Whyte is concerned and the Scottish FA chose not to pursue that because the cost of recovering that could potentially outweigh the money that would be recovered.

“He was being challenged through bankruptcy proceedings and a whole host of other cases, so we chose not to pursue that. That is something to consider now.” 

They didn’t do it then, and they won’t do it now.

But it does keep the attention away from the real story..

By the way..Stewart Regan has been promoted, would you believe…

He’s got a nice little number over at UEFA, following in the footsteps of a couple of others from the SFA…

Scottish FA Chief Executive Stewart Regan has been appointed to the Board of Administration of UEFA Club Competitions SA (UCC).

A new subsidiary company of UEFA, UCC’s role is to advise and make recommendations to UEFA Club Competitions’ Committee on strategic business matters and opportunities for its consideration before being referred up to the UEFA Executive Committee for approval.

The announcement was made to the members of the Scottish FA at its Annual General Meeting this morning. 

He played ball, is this his reward ?

Well, lets ask him something… and we’ll go through it from the start..

A lot of what follows is connected to the trial that just finished, so away back and read the piece by James Doleman if you haven’t already…

Did Rangers commit Fraud in 2011 to obtain a UEFA Licence?

On 21st March of 2011 Rangers and HMRC agreed that Rangers owed HMRC £2.8m in respect of a liability arising from unpaid and so overdue tax dating from 2000 to 2003 as a result of using a Discounted Options EBT Scheme ruled unlawful in 2010 by an FTT, but discussed postponement of collection to await developments on the Takeover of Rangers by Craig Whyte.
In their Interim Accounts dated 1st April 2011 this liability was referred to under:
Exceptional item (note 1) £1,870.
Note 1: The exceptional item reflects a provision for a potential tax liability in relation to a Discounted Option Scheme associated with player contributions between 1999 and 2003. A provision for interest of £0.9m has also been included within the interest charge.

In his covering statement Rangers Chairman Alistair Johnson said.

“ The exceptional item reflects a provision for a potential tax liability in
relation to a Discounted Option Scheme associated with player contributions between 1999 and 2003. Discussions are continuing with HMRC to establish a resolution to the assessments raised.”

Neither the Note nor covering statement are a true representation of events. As has been confirmed in court testimony the liability was no longer potential, Rangers having admitted they owed HMRC and any discussions were not about disputing the liability as a resolution of that had been reached on 21st March.
“In explaining the law on fraud generally, Mr Prentice Advocate Depute told the jury fraud involved a ” false pretense, dishonestly made in order to bring about some definite practical result” and suggested “it is not necessary that the result should be actual gain to the offender or loss to someone”.

Because of what was reported in the accounts Rangers were granted a UEFA licence according to a draft by Stewart Regan that he passed to Rangers on 7th December 2011 for comment before releasing, but Ranger’s consternation at its contents led to it never seeing the light of day.

Regan, who has just been appointed to a newly constituted Board of Administration of UEFA Club Competitions SA (UCC)*, used this false information in Rangers signed accounts to justify granting the UEFA licence. He drafted:
‘In light of persistent speculation across all media, the Scottish FA would like to clarify the position in regard to Rangers FC’s licence to play in Europe as governed by Article 50 of the UEFA Regulations.

It is noted from the report submitted to the Licensing Committee by Rangers FC’s advisors Grant Thornton UK LLP, dated 30th March 2011, that:

“All the recorded payroll taxes at 31 December 2010 have, according to the accounting records of the Club since that date been paid in full by 31 March 2011, with the exception of the continuing discussion between the Club and HM Revenue and Customs in relation to a potential liability of £2.8m associated with contributions between 1999 and 2003 into a discounted option scheme. These amounts have been provided for in full within the interim financial statements.”

Regan continues

‘Since the potential liability was under discussion by Rangers FC and HM Revenue & Customs as at 31st March 2011, it could not be considered an overdue payable as defined by Article 50. We are satisfied that the evidence from all parties complied with Article 50 and, on that basis, a licence was awarded for season 2011-12.’
Access to the Champions League is the goal of every top club although as subsequent events showed, in the case of Rangers FC, it was essential to their survival. To deny them in 2011 could have hastened the administration then liquidation that eventually took place in 2012 as a result of Rangers failing to qualify for Europe on the field of play, to which they were given access by a license granted under false pretences.

If this does not constitute fraud using the definition of fraud by the Advocate Depute above then what does?

Technical Note: Had HMRC agreed in writing before the 31st March to postpone collection until Takeover then that might have allowed the liability to be excused as an overdue payable under UEFA FFP, but the rules, subsequently confirmed by the Court of Arbitration on Sport (CAS) when both Malaga FC and Giannina FC appealed against sanctions for having an overdue payable to their tax authorities in similar circumstances any agreement has to be signed by the creditor (HMRC in the Rangers case) and in place by 31st March. If such an agreement does exist why was it not mentioned in 2011 in the draft Regan sent Rangers or in any of the responses to Celtic from December 2011 onwards?

Such a revelation would have been perfectly legitimate to make and no breach of confidentiality given it is what UEFA FFP specifies as a cause for exemption and would have killed Resolution 12 at the 2013 Celtic AGM

However, it would not mean a false/fraudulent statement had not been made by Rangers on 1st April 2011 to obtain a practical result, which in this case was obtaining higher income and at same time depriving competitors of it.

Alistair Johnson, whose trustworthiness is now highly questionable has just been appointed to The Rangers FC Board to join others still there who took part in ensuring RFC got a licence in 2011. Regan no doubt sees Johnson as a fit and proper person.

When are Celtic and other Scottish clubs going to say to the SFA “enough”? Enough insulting the intelligence of honest football supporters of other clubs and treating them as cash cows whose only purpose is to feed the hubristic thinking and greedy appetite of the crooks on The Ibrox Board?

You might want to copy that and email it to him, or to the papers, or to the television companies.

We have said that this isn’t going away.

They maybe should have listened….

 

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6 years ago

Watched that cunt Johnston on the BBC news last night…seemingly it’s everybody else’s fault, the demise of original rangers.
Mark Daly needs to drop this ” great scottish institution” pish from his reporting as well, there was nothing great about original rangers, nothing.
Fuck all, zilch, zero, nothing!
Regan get’s a gig at UEFA for his contribution to the “rangers” cause….just like his pal Ogilvie?
It’s fucking shameful, corrupt and frustrating to fucking death.
One thing we all must do though, is keep fresh for the fight, it’s worth fighting, it’ll be worth it in the end….keep at them!

Steven R
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti – if you need cheering up, go have a read at Ibrox Noise on the court case result…

Word of warning – get the industrial-strength Pampers on before you read it!!

http://www.ibroxnoise.co.uk/2017/06/justice-for-rangers-support-forget-it.html

6 years ago
Reply to  Steven R

Steven R,
I don’t need cheered up m8, it just get’s on my tits!

6 years ago
Reply to  Steven R

Steven R,
I refuse to read any hun forums, not for me m8!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Too close to home’ for ye, are they, Monti ..?

Besides,you really should, it’ll give ye a good laugh to release your anxiety while you wait …

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Gringo,
Still waiting on your big revelations you promised, quick now!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

I know you are, Monti, that’s because I’m keeping you waiting.

But patience, Monti, patience …

And you really should be careful what you wish for, in case you actually get it.

Get it ..?

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

I’m wishing for it now….come on then?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

I know you are.

But I’m calling the shots.

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Gringo,
Cannae wait!

maryhillbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Have to say Monti I do read Ibroxnoise for the sheer entertainment factor, they really are totally deluded the sense of entitlement and victimisation is palpable as well as fucking hilarious

CarlJungleBhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

What annoyed me most about Mark Daly’s piece wasn’t the “great Scottish institution” fallacy, but the fact that he allowed The Teflon Knight the last word by appending Murray’s reaction/comments (without any rebuttal) to the end of his report.

Rudebhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

Absolutely shocking end to a report. I reckon the email from Sir David B’stard that dropped into Daly’s inbox said ‘end your report like this or your journalism days are over’.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Rudebhoy

Of course.

Now apply that same ‘Grand Master’ order to all levels of society and you see how society works.

Master and servants.

And Monti’s one of the servants.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

‘Don’t mention the Masons!’, eh, Monti ..?

John Cleese hasn’t a look-in compared to you an yer hapless bullshit.

6 years ago

Nothing is going to happen. You know it ans I know it. These corrupt individuals don’t even have to keep their heads down. There is no such thing as ‘a fit and proper person test’. With Celtic’s board of conmen facilitating the new rangers and saying nothing for years, the notion that they will suddenly start representing Celtic rather than the Old Firm is fanciful. Rememeber how much extra cash they can make for the game against rangers. They know it is a money spinner. Celtic were at their weakest for years before new rangers were promoted to the top division. The board knew they could sell thousands more season books and decided to make sure by appointing Brendan Rodgers. If New Rangers were not in the division Rodgers would not have been appointed. It would have been Owen Coyle or Neil Lennon. Our board know that a sizeable chunk of the Celtic support are desperate to see new Rangers playing against celtic. I was at the Morton cup game lasts eason 14,000 the enxt round new Rangers at Hampden and suddenly about 50,000 celtic supporters want tickets. New Rangers always ensure money, hence, Celtic will treat their supporters with utter contempt, knowing we will keep coming back. if people were serious about changing things and not recognising new Rangers as the same club, they would have boycotted the games against them at Hampden at least and would not be attending any games against them at all. Now that might have got things done. But if you are paying extra to go to a game involving new Rangers, you are paying to watch new Rangers, who are the attraction that has made you shell out the extra, After all it costs less to watch Celtic playing against Morton, if you can be bothered turning up at all. If you do this then please shut up you are the problem.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
So you think that Brendan Rodgers was appointed because there was some entity of ” rangers ” in the top flight?
Do you want me to say it? PISH!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well, Monti, if you were up to speed, you would know that it was the taunting by Gilligan and the other WATPs after last year’s semi final that enraged Dermot enough to make sure he crushed them into oblivion.

And, as I already told you, the threat of a potential season ticket boycott due to the Celtic board’s silence on Res 12.

Do you really not know these things, and you such a ”good Celtic man tae ..?

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Gringo,
Where is your big revelation?
Share it with us, or are you full of shite…..wee man?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

All in good time, Monti, all in good time …

But I’d pay particular attention to how you address folk from now on, cos these things can go either way.

As I told weered last night, I’m not the vindictive nor vengeful type at all, and don’t like to cause bother to anyone, but some folk just can’t help themselves from puking all over our shoes.

And the last thing they need is more mess to add to their woes, know act I mean ..?

And we all know who the ‘wee man’ on here is …We watched him frantically run round here on Saturday, talking politely, and exclusively about the team.

Funniest thing I’ve ever seen, all the regulars asking ‘Where’s Monti, dear Monti, the blowhard we all know and love.
To hate’ …

Patience, little one, patience …

The watchword of the virtuous and true 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Gringo,
You’re still making threats, LET US SEE WHAT YOU HAVE? i’m goading you to do it, share it publicly….come on?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No, my poor deluded little toy, you have it all wrong …

Because it’s me that’s goading you 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Do you call that goading lol?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No, I call that goading Monti, as I don’t know who ‘lol’ is …

‘Silence is goading, GOADING…

But his eyes can’t see …’

But maybe he’s getting there now, after today..?

Nah, didn’t think so …

maryhillbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  john

John mate I and thousands of others don’t pay to watch Rangers Sevco or Barcelona we pay to watch Celtic. The reason many people weren’t going last year was the piss poor product as much as the absence of any Rangers team.

mike
6 years ago

In 2020 the SFA will move from Hampden to ?

Ibrox. pay back.

Celtic park, pay off?

6 years ago
Reply to  mike

FFS it’s Isabella the fortune teller…..

IRISHGUY
6 years ago

lets not forget Celtic were not the only Club that lost out on prize money, be it with the Euro License or the 10+ years of financial doping, cheating and fraudulent behaviour of RFC and the corrupt SFA.

I am not too geared up on how share dividends are calculated but I presume the ordinary ‘Joe Soap’ shareholders of whichever Club would have lost out also.

There should be no let up in the pursuit of justice, this should never be allowed to go unpunished. Worst of all it is happening NOW with the New Entity and it seems as if not 1 Club gives a fuck.

Could we be seeing the end of Scottish Football, I hope not.

QNLY THE FANS CAN SAVE IT, WAKE UP FANS!

6 years ago
Reply to  IRISHGUY

IRISHGUY,
well where are the fans of these other clubs who were ripped off?
Can you hear them?

IRISHGUY
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

My point exactly Monti, they seem to be content to let The Bhoys lead the way, Surely they can see that it is a dangerous road the game is travelling if the Ibrox mob get what they want, which is in my opinion Absolute Power over the game in Scotland.

6 years ago

Q. When David cunningham king paid £40m to avoid decades in jail in South Africa for fraud offenses……did he use ticketus?

6 years ago

Yes, I think it was part of the reason they appointed Brendan Rodgers. Another reason was the weakening of Celtic in the previous 3 or 4 seasons. We did not perform particularly well under Ronny of the last season under Lenny. Supporters were not renewing and everyone felt that they would make a better fist of it than they have. We knew we would win the league this year, but no one foresaw the utter shambles that they would be. I have not met one Celtic supporter who believed we would finish nearly 40 points in front of them. Season ticket renewals were well down, bringing in Rodgers wasa calculated measure by the board. And they would have factored in new Rangers getting promoted. I know Celtic supporters who renewed because there was going to be games against them. the board knew that they would probably sell another 5,0000 books on the strength of them coming up and another 5,000 on Rodgers appointment. The two together resulted in mamy people biting the bullet and stumping up again. And in more people attending games. If the games against them are not appealing how do you explain the frenzy in trying to get tickets to see them. How do you explain the missing thousands last season. Some games had less then 30,000 at them. Then people who had attended the games with 14,000 and 26,000 can’t get a ticket for the semi-final. I don’t know how you can under-estimate the absolutely calculating nature of the people who run Celtic. At the end of the day Dermot Desmond if a ruthless Tory Capitalist. Just because he owns the majority of share in Celtic and comes from Ireland does not change that. He is an enemy of working class people. Ask anyone who has worked for him. He is also a supporter of Rangers, ‘a fantastic club, with a fantastic history’. he should have been banned from Celtic Park for life for that comment alone. He is regularly quoted by supporters of the new club when they are promoting the survival myth. he wants them back as well. Not calling out the current members of the board is what they do. Many who sit in the board room should be nowhere near Celtic Park.

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago
Reply to  john

Once again John,you shine a light into dark corners.Scottish football is corrupt with many apathetic and still rolling up to buy into the circus.This situation is not the best for my club,Celtic,and l look/hope for better.Sad days when crooks at the SFA get promoted into UEFA positions.KTF

6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
A lot of the things you say here are fact, but then you start to ramble about Dermot this and Dermot that, there is a number of issues i have with the board, from appointing Deila & making an arse of paying the living wage to name but two.
You are accusing Dermot of wanting “rangers” back because of the financial spin off of that, but you aren’t upset to see a Scott Sinclair or Dembele on the park.
The Huns being in the top flight is a fact, it’s reality, horrible as it is, it is how it is.
As for season tickets being bought in higher numbers, in some cases some Celtic supporters might be glad to see this fixture, i am not.
Having said that i believe tbe vast majority of Celtic supporters buy their books because of their love of Celtic.
Our board may not be perfect, but they run our club well.
You would do well to remember that!

HH

The cube
6 years ago

John
You talk a lot of shite!
Rangers fans still think they’re the same rangers so it gives us great pleasure to see them in dismay when we fuck them over on the park, it doesn’t bother me paying extra money to see the Huns with their heads in there hands crying, so what if Brendan was appointed when sevco were promoted, In Brendan we trust

6 years ago
Reply to  The cube

The Cube,
Well said m8!

6 years ago

Why if they are a new club? It sounds as if you consider them to be the same. I don’t. I don’t buy a ticket to watch Celtic playing them. I give my season ticket away when we play them at home. I will never watch Celtic playing new Rangers. i enjoy beating them but I will not participate in their fantasy. What other Celtic supporters do is up to them. But you can’t keep going on about how they are dead and then treat the game the same as if they were alive. that makes no sense. it means we are as deluded as them. The vast majority do buy their books because of their love for Celtic but that number changes from year to year. to say the board are not perfect. Nvery few clubs in the country allow their Chairman to call the support racists and anti-semites. the guy was in the door a couple of months, with a spurious story about how he had always supported Celtic and he berates and humiliates the support who are outraged at ano the guy on the board participating in the victimisation of the poorest people in the country from the bloody house of lords. Less than perfect. Brother Walfrid would be turning in his grave. Imagine how we would have reacted had the guy been on the board at new Rangers. And do you agree with Dermot Desmond? Do rangers have a fantastic history? I believe their history to be shameful as do most Celtic supporters. it is precisely this kind of attitude that has resulted in the survival myth. /

6 years ago
Reply to  john

“I enjoy beating them”
Why?

Celtic125
6 years ago
Reply to  john

Gawn yersel John. I don’t speak to a lot of my old Tim* pals now because trying to get them to see the truth of the omnishambles is as difficult as it is explaining liquidation to a hun. The motivation behind either group might very well be different but the outcome is identical. I so miss my Club. The Board called it spectacularly wrong whilst the ramifications sailed over the heads of many of our support. We know now that we were a willing cheek of an Old Firm arse and are as eager to be Sevco’ new partner, if Massa wants us that is. F**king Shitebags!

6 years ago
Reply to  john

Weered,
Excellently put!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

‘Who’re the Masons in the Green?’

(With the emphasis on the ‘who’re’ …)

Why, it’s the nipple-baring, trouser-tugging, support-abusing ‘Celtic Board!’

Let’s all give them a Big (Red) Hand!

(Apply it either forwards, or backwards, with the knuckle under the thumb.)

First up, Monti!

His ridiculously stupid ‘I know nothing about Freemasons!’ comment almost barred him from tonight’s show, but he more than made up for his stupidity by going ‘Doo Doo Doo Doo’ at regular enough intervals till he thought his case was won!

Thus, having brought ‘Self Delusion’ to new, and hitherto unattainable depths, we decided to, er, ‘keep his slot open’, as it were, so he could embarrass himself even further and amuse us even more!

So, tell us, Monti, what would you like to ask The Celtic Board about their complicity and collusion in the ‘Great Revival Of The ‘Dodo ‘Gers*’ ?

You have 5 seconds to phrase it …

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

And our 60 minutes is up, maddies and lentil gents!

Thanks to all for yet another great episode of ‘Excitement & Suspense’ and we hope to all see you here again next week for yet another suspense-filled episode!

Many congrats to John, who wins tonight’s, er, ‘Top Prize’ of a dinner with Peter Lawwell, and the (thankfully inimitable) Monti, for once again scoring NUL POINTS!, setting a new record low in the process!

Til next time, its goodnight from me, and ‘I know nothing about Freemasons!’ from him!

(You can stop trying to phrase the question now, Monti, you only had 5 seconds.

Monti? MONTI?!

Oh, dear, I think he’s soiled himself!)

6 years ago

I enjoy beating every team we beat. And I will show up to watch us beating them all. I won’t wake up and decide I want a ticket to watch us beat one particular club and then drone on about how that particular club is dead but ignore the games against all other clubs as thousands of our fans did last season. If someone does that they clearly they see the games against the other club as more important than the others. Why? Back in the 70s and 80s we would be pulling in 25-30 thousand for most games and then over 60 thousand for the game against them. What has changed? They are dead. They don’t believe it but apparently neither do thousands of us. We give them more attention than they deserve.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

John don’t take the actual attendance during the old board years as gospel m8,they were very economical with the figures in those days. Plus I never paid into Celtic till I was about 17.
Double whammy,lifted over etc etc. All great fun.

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Lol

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Weered Got pocket money of my old grannie for cleaning out the coal fires,and lkenneling it up every morning, we used to go free on the supporters bus if you were still at school and on with a member, the older guys would get us to take half bottles,cans etc in anywhere we could fit them,and lift us over, only money we spent was on a bottle of Buckie between 4 of us and a couple of cans of breakers. Which of course they would get for us. Happy days.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

That’s right, all this clear evidence of a blatant Masonic conspiracy, yet still no one thinks there’s a Masonic conspiracy, ..?

I mean, whit in the actual fuck is wrong with that picture ..?

Simply sticking the word ‘theory’ at the end does not ever negate an actual conspiracy, though it does say lot about the fool that is using it.

And you’re no fool, weered, so think about this one again.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Apologies for the misunderstanding again, weered, and many thanks for sharing the post about our Granny, heartwarming stuff.

And I suspected that you knew the breadth & depth of the realities of Freemasonry; they’ve started and ended nearly every war going since their murky inception in 16th, or 17th, century Scotland, with their true origins seemingly deliberately obscured, though it is not wealth that is their true source of power, as that only comes second to something more sinister again, and it’s that that’s the problem.

A nod also for your appreciation of my musings to Monti, and the hope that you will understand that my reflexive attitude was an inflamed reaction to extreme provocation.

Good laughs from jimmybee too, both much appreciated, though, admittedly, I’ve been laughing my ass off all week 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Weered she gave me one great lesson.
I had been home to hers for school lunch, on the way back to school I had been surrounded by a few of the Huns,coming from a mostly proddy area we were easily singled out,as we were the only ones in school uniform. I was a wee skinny runt to be honest,and easy pickings for the bullies,so as I took their smash and a few kicks,she came charging out,they scarpered,she dragged me in,and hit me with the fireside poker right across the arm,fuckin greet she said and the other one gets it. So I counted till the pain eased. Now she said,those feckers can’t hit as hard as that,so next time you fuckin walk away your getting this got it, I sure did,never backed down again in my life.
Fuckin crazy auld grannie God bless and keep her.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
I fear you are going down the worn road of ‘ i’m more of a Celtic supporter than you are, because i go to more games ‘ pish. Sad really.

So to any Celtic supporters out there (like myself) who can’t attend as often as they’d wish, you aren’t a real Celtic supporter so best step back into line.
FUCK OFF!

6 years ago

So 3 board members who stood and watched,as sir minty sold out,are back on the board,yet not a peep,as it is still the fault of a guy who has just been cleared of all wrong doing. Did they actually follow the trial?? It’s a joke.
Regan says things have tightened up, explain this, from the trial.
Findlay says Mr Johnson “probably illegally” increased the salary of the chief executive
Horne “I don’t know why Alistair did that’
The greatest football swindle has taken place,in any other football loving country in the world,no stone would have been left unturned,to get the truth.
Shame on everyone involved in the SMSM,who continue to turn a blind eye,to the truth. Shame on the directors and shareholders of all clubs affected,by the corrupt decision to grant Rangers a licence to the detriment of their own club.
Regan is in the pocket of Dave King. It is obvious from the statements yesterday.
It was like a joint statement from sfa/Sevco at the same time,deflecting the truth from bot their dirty rotten orange Masonic Presbyterian fuckin scumbag bastards institutions.

6 years ago

The only thing worth noting from this trial for me is this.
Rangers were in financial difficulty,Administration was heading their way,and outstanding liability with HMRC.
Step forward SFA granting a fraudulent licence that keeps the lights on,this sole act is the main reason for the now defunct club.
It allowed the rats to jump ship,and set up the innocent,who only needed FatBoy to beat Malmo. All would be well.
He couldn’t and the lights went out.
Is that about right?…

Pensionerbhoy
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

jimmybee,

If I may add my thoughts.

Methinks the Malmo result is a greatly exaggerated myth. Given the financial black hole at Ibrox at the time, it is hard to imagine that even winning the CL would have saved the club never mind a qualifying round. The only thing a win in Malmo may have provided was a little more breathing space for Whyte to conjure up some more finance that may have delayed administration for a while and, perhaps, even avoided liquidation. However, one way or another, the existing debt combined with the potential “Big Tax” bill (estimated around £90,000,000) was too big for anyone other than a genuine billionaire, a la Murderwell or Mafia, to pay off. Whyte was a known failing-business assassin and cleaner brought in to do the killing and clean up the mess. Fortunately – I use the word advisedly – even he could not resolve Murray’s malpractices so he was set up to take the rap for the whole damn shambles and hung out to dry in the public domain while the real crooks were protected by all and sundry,including football and the media, in dirty, dank, dark dungeons of lies and secrecy.

Scottish football is that contaminated meal that must be puked up or pumped out if it is to survive. And time and top level medical experts have become critical to its survival.

H H

H H

6 years ago
Reply to  Pensionerbhoy

PB, you are probably spot on m8.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Hail Hail to that alright, PB.

6 years ago

Minty set up Whyte to be the fall guy. He couldn’t give a toss what happened to them. He wanted out. he had wanted out since he was left with the entire share issue to underwrite himself as he couldn’t get them to stump up any cash. they were happy to let him borrow and cheat but did not want to pay for anything themselves. they knew Whyte had no cash but admin was inevitable and fat sally’s failure just hastened the end. they are gambling big style again. Failure to start well next season and finding themselves behind Celtic again could result in admin for the newbies. It is imperative that Celtic qualify for the CL again this season, this practically kills their season off before it begins. If Celtic don’t qualify this will be a huge boost to them. We should still win the league comfortably but we don’t want to give them any encouragement. They will be ebtter next season, simply because they cannot get any worse.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

John,
I think you are wrong when you say he ” didn’t care what happened to them “, i think he did, but the desire to sell and retain his metals business was something he cared MORE about.
The point here was about getting out, selling up, but if Whyte had been a success, Murray would have been delighted!

Admin
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You believe Sir David Murray, a man who bought Rangers with borrowed money and took as much money out the club including the largest EBT windfall gave a damn who bought them(AFTER he asked for a LIFE PRESIDENT title of course)? The bank said sell and he said “ASAP boss!”

He got to buy back a business he had already sold for £180m for £1…the only thing he cared about was that Sunday Times Rich List and Rangers weren’t gonna get him back on it unless he used them as a bargaining chip.

Im accepting nae crocodile tears from you Mr Murray, haste ye back to the Rangers board anytime soon, no doubt before 10 in a row…and bringing Watty with you

6 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Desi,
If what you are saying is, does Murray want the ‘succesful ‘ years of original rangers to continue, then yes i do think in that respect he ‘ cared ‘.
Do i think he cared who he sold the club to in order to keep his metal businesses, then no i don’t think he cared about that at all, the club had to be sold, the deal needed done.
My answer was based on Murray in a personal sense, would have wanted ” rangers ” to continue to be succesful.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Which is why he ran up a quarter billion dollar tax bill and then shoved them to their death ..?

Or because he knew they’d ‘Never beat The Lisbon Lions’ and knew it from the off, hence all the moonbeams ..?

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Gringo,
You are still not looking at my answer in the context it was meant, which means you are ignorant or thick as fuck….i’d go for former and latter.

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered,
Gives me a break from being a pussy magnet.

mike
6 years ago

Scottish fitba. was broken and financially and morally corrupted when SDM. decided to tax avoid and cheat.
The SFA are morally corrupt, this was confirmed when they granted “Rangers” a licence to participate in the C.L. knowing that they were conflicted by not paying there social taxes.
All EBT. players and officials are tax dodgers, knock, knock, who’s there? Hector.
The Celtic Board who so far have, have remained silent, have two choices, to call out the SFA. the proof is now out there, or still remain silent.
D. C. King, (charlotte fakes)criminal but fit and proper.
Craig Whyte, bankrupt fool, recordings? not fit and proper.
Regan, aware of the wee tax case, but not officially notified?
into UEFA along side Campbell Ogilvie, EBT.
Would Scottish fitba. be financially viable without Celtic or the dead club?
The Lord Nimmo Smith enquiry is now conflicted and must be revisited, strip the titles.

6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
Bang on!

Hugh67
6 years ago

Ralph, an excellent article.

If there has to be some form of rangers, then I am personally happy that they are controlled by the same arseholes who killed them in their original form.

However, Johnson et al were on the original board who, as a single entity, were under the jurisdiction of the SFA. Therefore subject to this FFP ruling.

Might be wrong, but does the SFA have authority over sevco’ s RIFC? I thought all these clowns joined this board , deliberately avoiding the TRFC bit, which is under SFA authority.

Can anyone clarify this please.

HH

Gringo
6 years ago

At least Johnston admitted they’re deid, even if ‘killing a spirit’ must be quite an ethereal business …

‘In an interview with BBC Scotland, Johnston said:

“Candidly (Whyte) should have been charged with murder, murder of an institution. (M’kay …)

“Destruction of people’s passion, destruction of the spirit of hundreds of thousands of Rangers’ fans. That’s what he should have been charged with. Then it would have been a no brainer.”

A ‘no brainer, indeed, Alistair.

But I thought that your ‘worldwide fanbase’ was 500 million, not a few hundred thousand ..?

The phrase ‘provincial West of Scotland fitba club’ springs instantly to mind once again.

Admin
6 years ago

Well said by John throughout this thread.

At the end of the day, we, Celtic are to blame for this current state of affairs. A state where our supporters are arguing with each other because Celtic did not do the right thing at the right time.

There they were on the floor and we walked away and left them when we should have cut their heads off there and then.

Im talking about the corrupt SFA and SPL here..(fuck Rangers International and their charlatans)…this new SPFL is our reward…Celtic board members elevated to leading committees…all that R12 postponement talk of “Lets wait and see after the trials”…utter nonsense.

Once again, club fans treated with disdain by a politically charged board who don’t give a flying fuck about doing the right thing when it truly matters.

You can argue about prudent financial management and signing this and that but every now and again, a subject arises that the Board coldly turn away from and make us all hang our heads in shame.

6 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

PISH

6 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

In what way are Celtic to “blame”?

Celtic125
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Cos they shat it mate. You want the titles stripped but the Club doesn’t. I want the Club to state periodically that we have no association whatsoever with such a vile, corrupt holding company but the Club doesn’t. That’s why they’re to blame. They want to play serf to our rightful masters.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Celtic125

Won’t get fooled again …

Admin
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

We were the main power at a critical time when a clean sweep was needed and the horrid shower of chancers should have been chased out of hampden.

What did our Board do?

We accepted some nice committee placements and went back into the shadows.

The Board dont care what the fans feel about Rangers or the SFA. They feed us fitbaw cake while they play wannabee politicians

I can tell you this…

Ralph calls me after every Res 12 meeting he goes to and I always start my conversation with “Kicked down the road by the Board?” and after a few seconds Ralph sadly says “Well, basically, aye..”

Mickelele
6 years ago

John

The product wasn’t there under Deila, the football was pure and utter shite, that was a big reason the crowds were down.

D J Smyth
6 years ago

JohnI it appears you have been sniffing glue very early today .
I think Celtic would be far better banning yourself & if anyone thought the same banning him too.
Banning Dermot Desmond for life from Celtic Park would effectively sign the death certificate for our great club . He would enviable put his & his family shares on the market & this sudden offering of almost 50% of shares would reduce value to very very little . D D could bear the loss , Celtic Football Club .
Your nonsense about D Desmond been difficult to work for is frankly nonsense as well, as I had the pleasure & experience of been in work situations with him .
John , I hope you recover from your present state of mind

6 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

🙂

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

desi mond banned!Breaking news signed em Desi Mond

Celtic125
6 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

I’d rather be on the glue with John than at the soup with you.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Celtic125

😀

charlie
6 years ago

here we go again he he

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie
charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

the floors awe yours mate

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

fine and dandy but its the maintenence that kills ye

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

gotit in wan a never knew you were that smart

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

fuck me weered i agree wae ye but theres no need tae shout

6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Is there no caps lock button?

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

HEAR, HEAR

6 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Beside Thatcher!

6 years ago

That is exactly what I said. They employed a manager they knew would rejuvenate the side at a time when people were beginning to look at what they were doing. If they had not come up or were not looking as if they would improve we would not have shelled out the cash for Rodgers. We were not willing to pay for anything other than an experiment when they were in the lower divisions because they reckon a fair number of us are only interested in seeing us beat them Big peter said that no club in scotland suffered more than celtic at the loss of Rangers. He was almost apologetic when he made the comment. The board calculated that people would come back to see them again. And they were proven right. i agree that it was to do with Rodgers but they would not have went with Rodgers if they didn’t have to. The board at Celtic will do nothing that they are not forced to do. the bottom line for these guys is the bottom line.
Spot on Desi, they would have crushed our windpipe when we were on the canvas if the shoe was on the other foot. (a lot of metaphors in this sentence) Celtic would not exist if we had gone into administration and failed to exit via a CVA. Do you seriously believe that David Murray would be talking about Celtic having a ‘fantastic history’ and being a ‘wonderful club’. Would he shite. You know what he would have said and his media poodles would have backed him up ‘business is business, celtic are dead. no sympathy’. he done it to Airdrie for 30 grand. but what did Dermot, Peter and the boys do. Nothing. Not so much as a comment in the Evening Times. I pray to god we don’t live to regret this. because if they ever get back on top they will do everything in their power, fair means and foul, to grind us into the dirt.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

” ever get back on top “? ” back”?
Interesting……

Where’s my Ouija board?
Dad, this guy say’s you can come back from the dead?
It’s been 27 years dad i wouldn’t mind seeing you again…p.s. can i get the £3,000 back that was spent on your funeral….plus interest.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It’s the same fans, Monti, with the same hubristic, sectarian beliefs, even if they are following a different club.

Their old club might be dead, but Alistair Johnston is wrong, on so many levels, about, er, ‘murdering the spirit’, because its that very same based, spiteful, sectarian s’spirit’ that they carry around like a kerosene-saoked torch, and you and I everybody else on here knows that they will happily apply that ‘torch’ to Celtic and all that it stands of rat the very first chance they get.

John, Desimond, fine observations throughout.

The fix is in, and has ben from the off.

Conning all of Scottish fitba is nothing to guys who’ve been tearing up societies for centuries.

And delighted as I am with this great Celtic resurgence, I would rather it had been done in a clean game, AFTER our board had sorted all this shit out once and for all.

Instead we have Pedro the Catholic in charge of ‘new’ Rangers* and Peter the Mason in charge of the Celts…

Now how’s about that for ‘lying in the same bed’ together ..?

charlie
6 years ago
charlie
6 years ago
mike
6 years ago

If at first you don’t succeed try, try and try again.
They got away with it, were dead and buried and have now risen up from the dead.
This second entity are reliving the past, “don’t pay and we will not take it away”. No money, no nomad, no listing, just secrecy, aided AGAIN by the same chumps in the SFA/ SPFL. But who IS the chumps? Celtic and the supporters who pays yer money to prop up the SFA/SPFL. or the gullibles, this sacred institution, who must be protected.
I ask again, would Scottish fitba. be relevant without thems, think of the grounds, the supporters of the other Scottish clubs, its like watching amateur fitba.
It is just my opinion, but I believe that if the Board, cut of thems head, then Scottish fitba. hits the grubber.

IRISHGUY
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Scottish football hit the grubber the day they were leapfrogged into the leagues. They have brought nothing but vile, hatred and corruption with them.

mike
6 years ago
Reply to  mike

You completely miss my point, Scottish fitba. IS Celtic and thems, take any of the two away, then there is NO Scottish fitba. at a professional level, it is at junior level.
Of course I know about what they have done and what they are, if you read my post above you will see that.
My nationality has nothing to do with that, it is irrelevant, this is about money, nothing else and the level of the sport that we love. If the Celtic board, decide to challenge the SFA and thems, then I would be in complete agreement, but will they though, or will they accept the blue pound, my money would be on the latter.
btw the high case lettering, matters fuck all, it does not win any arguments or alter the truth.

6 years ago

Guys we all know what needs to be done,but as John and others say it won’t be done.
We stood together eventually, (I remember me and my auld man having a right go at each other over the sack the board campaign) To get rid of the old board.
Yet here we are constantly moaning, about the injustice of it all,but doing hee haw about it.
A boycott would have been the answer,I’m sure we were close to it before Brendan was appointed,now the invincibles are untouchable. So with 10k reported on the waiting list,what action is left. We don’t want to hurt Celtic,but how can we allow the corruption to go on. Celtic must call into question Regan,the trial of Whyte demands that a full independent inquiry into the granting of the UEFA licence,and also not forgetting they have no audited accounts for the past 3 years how can they grant one this season?.must be actioned.
Peter must stand up,Fergus would have been all over them.
Do you think Fergus would have been cheated out the millions lost from possible champions league. Or titles lost due to unfair sporting advantage.
This is an organisation,who wanted to tear down the tri colour,who held up the transfer of Jorge cadette,and who have continued to be anti Celtic,during our proud history, and paid a broadcaster to keep them on the telly.
They are working for one club only
It’s time for it to stop. Cmon Peter,make your own history,take them down.

6 years ago

What I know is the laughter at Sevco has gone now,only a bitter taste is left in the mouth.
They have survived, they have achieved their goal,doesn’t matter what we call them,doesn’t matter what we think of them,or their going for 55 mentality,for when that awful day comes that’s how it will be celebrated,and we will have to look into our children’s children’s eyes and say sorry,we could have stopped this you know, and they will ask why didn’t you.

ROB O'KEEFFE
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

poignant and sadly, true.We have to do something…..

6 years ago
Reply to  ROB O'KEEFFE

Go on then, what do you propose?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Whoops! I might have to retract my previous statement! 😀

Looks like I’m as much of a ‘trigger finger’ with praise as I can be with insults, which isn’t much to use anyone at all.

Although, having said that, even the faintest of praise can be often a good thing, so the approval stays in.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered: *As your own praise of today’s contributions has shown.

Much appreciated.

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Was that to me or Rob?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Neither: It was to weered.

The clue is in the fact I wrote ‘Weered’ at the beginning.

Trigger finger, Monti, tut tut tut.

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

“Our fault”?
What the fuck are you on about?
It’s a Scottish football issue, as a whole and not just down to Celtic ffs!
Is it Celtic’s fault the Huns used EBT’S?

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yeah i’m sure they are, turn it into a Celtic v ” rangers ” fight, of course the media wouldn’t like that.cough.
Desmond and Lawwell should be applying pressure on Regan for answers, yes, i’m on that page.
All the other clubs and fans and their Chairmen are saying fuck all, nothing!
It’s all apathy and silence, they must like getting cheated because they fucking have been!

Where is Milne at Aberdeen or Budge at Hearts screaming for title stripping? They don’t give two fucks!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well, hot DAMN! man, Weered, I could not have put it any better than that!

I’d quite a good yin lined up tae 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Aye ok Weered, big on complaining? Happy to be victimised?
What the fuck does that mean?

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

” Finding reasons to do fuck all”?
Again i have no understanding of your insinuation.
Why would i look for a reason to do nothing?
Empty pot shot.

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

” The only people who can “?
Go on then share your wisdom with us why Hearts, Aberdeen & St.Johnstone are powerless to do anything…

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It’s the Masons, Monti, the Masons.

I’ve been telling you this all week.

When is it gonnae get into your thick skull that I know what I’m talking about?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

And I’ve also known guys that were gonnae dae this and gonnae dae that but, the difference is, I dae it, because I had tae dae it, but never when it wasn’t essential.

In fact, I’ve been daeing it all week, and tae you, at that, so you can’t say that you haven’t felt it.

Cos you’ve fuckin felt it alright.

And now that you know what it’s like to be on the end of the bully stick, I’d appreciate your silence so much more than your thoughts, unless you examine them and tidy them up, cos I’m bored with this nonsense for today.

Big up to Ralph & Desi for some brilliant titles this week, ‘Beware False Flag Weavers (yes, with an E! ;)), ‘Cameras Ready, He’s Going Down!’, Monti’s twitchy-eyed day at the office looking like Peter Sellers … Talki about ‘keeping up with current events!’ 😀

Aye, it’s been quite a day alright, a brilliant article and some brilliant insights from all involved, well, almost all, but even days like today have to come to their natural conclusion, and this one here’s mine.

Cheers to you all.

Aye, even you 🙂

HH

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

PS: Is Monti sorry or is Montesorri ..? 😀

6 years ago

Still this is really funny.
https://youtu.be/rNzurhbqADY

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

It is indeed 😀

Reminds me of someone tae, cannot think who it is …

charlie
6 years ago

a dont think weev heard the last of wee craigy heer he is speaking to the asbestos dome security

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie
charlie
6 years ago

heer are all the countries who know the huns are deid

charlie
6 years ago
Reply to  charlie
6 years ago

Monti you cabn disagree with everything I say. You can even right PISH after it. as clearly that means you have a coherent argument but don’t put words into my mouth or tell me what I have said. I have never said ‘I am a bigger Celtic supporter’ than anyone. I have also lived abroad and didn’t get to a game for a few years. i am talking about the attitude of many with reference to the current Rangers outfit. Peopel couldn’t be bothered to go and watch Celtic at all last season. Or did I imagine the top tier being shut but then it was them in the Cup semi and the supporters wet their collective knickers despite going on bout how they were deid and were actually Sevco. They were even laughing at us for confirming they were still alive through our enthusiasm to play them. Somebody above mentioned the games in the 70s/80s and the old boards tendency to down play attendances. fair enough but most of the games in some of those seasons were played in front of a half empty stadium. No doubt about it. I think I read somewhere when we were getting to 6 and 7 during the 9 the average attendance was under 30 thousand. And it is good that we have an open forum here where if you don’t subscribe to the perceived wisdom and the party line you can fuck off. That sounds a wee bit Sevco to me. Just because someone or something is connected to Celtic does not mean they get a free ride. John Reid, Brian Wilson, Lord Livingstone, Ian Bankier, and, yes, Dermot Desmond, can all collectively FUCK OFF as far as I am concerned. Me and mins have been around a lot longer than any of these shite bags ever have.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

PISH

SteveNaive
6 years ago

So our football is ‘a product’ now ? My young lad and my season tickets don’t include any of those games yet my older lads buy them at £49 home and away despite protests from me. We also buy our fair share of away and SC games and have ploughed plenty into packages for CL and merchandise. Still remember walking from Shettleston to dodge the ticket guy and get in cheaper by showing my UB49 ( not the Brummie soft reggae combo)We do this because it was inculcated into us (thank God) and now my sons have begun to take their weans. It’s not about ‘the product’ or who they are/were or the various cheats who hate us or our conniving board. They and us are only custodians for the next generation.It’s about who we are, it’s about Celtic Despite all this, and I agreed with John the last time he brought this up, we would boycott games to drive the stake through their and the SFA’ s heart. Rosa Parkes was just one person but had the will of her people behind her.

6 years ago

Well Said Steve

6 years ago

I remember standing outside Celtic park the day Billy Mcneill got sacked ( start of the 90’s ) big Billy took my hand and pointed to Stevie Chalmers who was standing at the door entrance, Billy said to the crowd, ” Celtic is bigger than any one man, there is the man who scored the goal that gave this club it’s finest moment ( Chalmers ),keep following the team he said to the fans gathered, the team needs you “!
Even in the big man’s disappointment he pit us and the club first, i was so proud of him, when he took my hand i didn’t know what to do, but it was a nice memory of a bad day!

So my point is, stick Boycotts up your arse!
We are there for Celtic, to will on the team, for each other….not because of some morbid form of Hun fucks!

Celtic125
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Pish

6 years ago
Reply to  Celtic125

🙂

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I have to ask, in all sincerity: Why did Big Billy raise YOUR hand, Monti?

Cartvale88
6 years ago

The only reason Sir Minty got involved was Souness, he was originally interested in Ayr United, But Rangers were a cash cow, it still is as the Zombies have not got the brains to add two and two together. They welcome the old board back in the belief millions will be poured in, HBOS are no more. They will be a mediocre entity in European Football.
The problem with other supporters is they were also cheated by their club’s compliance to the Establishment .
Only Fergus sued the SFA regarding Cadette, no one else at Parkhead can hold their head high.
Agree it’s the majority of your comments John and Desimond, likewise your article Ralph
However Monti Pish Is becoming repetitive.

6 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Oh is it?

6 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Cartvale,
Why not send an email to ralph to complain?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Aye, that’s right, Monti, you know all about complaining via email, don’t ye?

I mean, ye did the same about me after I’d ragdolled the life oot ye oer last Thursday & Friday, and had ye scrabbling aboot here like an altar boy all day Saturday, like an altar boy looking for ‘the host’.

Get it ..?

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Gringo,
I don’t complain to Ralph, never have!
Even when i’ve been directly or indirectly threatened on here.
Water of a ducks back.
Met guys like that through my life, gonnae dae this, gonnae get that….no cunt has stepped up and done it tho.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Oh, I’ve done it already, Monti.

I went through you like a dose of the clap on bad acid last Friday, as your antics on Saturday showed us all where you are, and I can do it all again with the press of a button.

Not a good place to be, eh ?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Did you get my joke on ‘the host’, btw ..?

There’s a wee bit of Finbarr in it, but without all the rude bits 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Keep it coming Gringo…..

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Alrighty!

Did you get my joke on ‘the host’?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

And, I should add, I’ve been doing it every day since, in case you haven’t noticed.

But you did.

Boy oh boy, can you see it.

6 years ago

Gringo,
Mon then?
Where is it?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

‘The host’?

I don’t know, YOU lost it 😉

Cartvale88
6 years ago

Monti, don’t like critiscm, as a critic you take the knocks you give out.
Try extracting the urine for a change, or even dog pish!

6 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

What?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You seem to be a little confused here, Monti.

Why don’t you go and lie down?

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Why don’t you fuck off?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You know why …

You just don’t know that you know yet.

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Subtitles?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

For the blind?

That won’t work, mate.

6 years ago

Nothing will change unless supporters take matters into their own hands. And the only way they can do that is by withholding their cash. It is not a boycott to refuse to go to Ibrox or buy a ticket for a cup semi final to drive a message home to the SFA. This is real action. Can you imagine the reaction if Celtic played new Rangers in a cup Semi final and no Celtic supporters attended the game but protested outside. The worlds press would be interested in what the hell it was all about, not to mention the money that the SFA and sponsors would lose. This is what gets people asking questions. Like the Palestinian campaign. The Resolution 12 guys have done a brilliant job but after 5 years no one is remotely interested. Some people just think it is a continuation of the ‘Old firm’ rivalry. Just Celtic supporters hating Rangers. So what? if you want things to change you have to do something different, something bold and it might even cost you. I even heard one guy on here talking about refusing to go to next years semi-final before this years! Why? Because we were playing new Rangers. Too big a game, just wait until we play Airdrie or some other unattractive fixture. Hardly shows commitment.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

….and the team would be hurt, no support for the team in the ground?
Or is that your whole wish?

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Think we drew at ibrokes when we were locked oot m8
Johnny Collins scored. Lol

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Atletico Madrid at home?

Rob O'Keeffe
6 years ago

Weered,we are getting there.There is infighting because we are hurting at the injustice and feel we are powerless and our board aren’t standing up for us.Hearts have to lead the way.Why are they not appealing against a licence being given to TRFC for Europa qualifiers?I thought AB was a hot shot business woman?E-mail the Hun’s reserves and ask why they are allowing their club to be “duped”.Let’s get the ball rolling….

6 years ago

On this day 1967, the great Di Stefano,only wanted one team for his testimonial.
We duly obliged and humped them Ole Ole Jinky
https://youtu.be/7-nOoMkdcqc

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

OLÉ, Jinky! :0

6 years ago

Some reports claiming that Hayes is on his way to Celtic with Christie going to Aberdeen on loan. I would much prefer Christie to stay.He hasn’t had a chance yet. Looks like Roberts is not going to return. Again disappointing.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  john

More wild speculation from the media, like Moussa’s ‘second interview’ with Milan, which, oddly, preceded his first …

It’s just another windup, it’s all that they have to annoy us.

6 years ago
Reply to  john

“Looks like Roberts isn’t going to return”?
Go on then…are you the Oracle?

Gringo
6 years ago

Here, Monti, that was awfy nice of Ralph to put up a photie of yer day …

I never knew ye looked like Peter Sellers 🙂

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Definetely 5′

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ye’re as wee as him as well?!

Nae luck, mah man!

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Oh the banter……

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Definitely! 😉

6 years ago

Don’t know about that…..Gringo’s contribution is backward!

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Not in my opinion

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well, that’s unexpected! 😀

I hope you seen my retraction of my very low blow?

I meant every word of it.

But that’s not to say your ‘Surprise!’ will be higher.

6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Still talking the talk but with little delivery…sort of a Didier Agathe.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The talk is the talk and the walk is the walk, and you, my poor plaything, have neither.

Not any more.

mike
6 years ago

To all who hope for life beyond this living,
remember Mikey whenever your giving,
all his hard work, clearing out muck from the stable,
leaving him fucked, lying under the table.

pour him a glass, to revive his being,
pick up his glasses to enable his seeing,
put in his aid, so all that he’s hearing,
dinny bend doon misses cos he’l be learing.

Administer CPR to revive his heart,
and then move aside in case he doth fart,
he’s taking his lambs of to the mart,
tomorrow morning, it be ith an early start.

6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Nom nom

mike
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

H.H. (Hungry Horace). 😉

6 years ago
Reply to  mike

🙂

mike
6 years ago

Well done to the Ralphmeister, thank you for raising this subject again, the sad thing is after months of trying to get signatures to take action against the SFA. he raised just 5000 signatures.
5000 out of 60/70 thousands, who careth not many it has to be said, so we beat our gums and absolutely nothing happens.
Its good to talk.
Actions speak louder than words.
A burd in the hand,
a mans a man for awe that.
When the supporters wake up and raise up to tackle the loonies in the SFA/SPFL gies a shout. H.H. (Harry Hood).

6 years ago
Reply to  mike

Leave Pensionerbhoy out of it please:)

Gringo
6 years ago

‘Night, weered.

It was indeed an interesting day’s posting, and was almost a lot more interesting again, but it’s often the silence that’s more poignant than words.

6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

The silence bit….try it!

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No, Oh Great Bellend in Chief Of All Here & Beyond, YOU fuckin try it.

And give us all a bit of quiet.

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Gringo

Truth be told, I’m getting a little worried about ye, Monti,,as your nerves seem a little frayed, and you’re turning rusty round the edges.

Why don’t you try to chill out for a while, try listening to some music ..?

I know the very song for you that will revive your flagging spirits, as I’ve just been listening to it myself.

Here, give it a go.

I know it’s only 2 and a bit minutes, but it’ll give you something else to concentrate on, for that wee bit at least.

It’s even got subtitles! 🙂

https://youtu.be/yaGDGlS9E9w

Rudebhoy
6 years ago

Brilliant Ralph and amazing comments too. It’s less than two weeks into the close season and cats are going crazy. Please remember the EST always win, fuck them. The boards silence is deafening though. Definitely demonstrations or boycotts next season if nothing is done. Let’s enjoy the summer celebrating trebles and the Lisbon Lions. While laughing hysterically as Crazy Ped buys another Catholic for the sevco.

6 years ago
Reply to  Rudebhoy

Weered,
Did you answer my questions to your wee hissy fit to me last night?
You can answer or you can wait for your friend Gringo to do it?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti, did YOU answer MY questions regarding ‘the host’ yet?

No, it certainly doesn’t look like it and I think I know why.

And you really ought to apologise to weered, he’s done nothing but defend ye when I’ve rendered ye mute.

In fact, he even asked for mercy on your behalf the other night.

And every time think ‘Now’s the moment’ I decide to hang back.

Now why do YOU think that is ..?

(PS, I know the answer, and it’s not what you think,.)

6 years ago

Morning guys, hope all is well,please get out and vote,today.
Dave King buys Craig Whyte emails for 20k.
To bribe,and to secure a better price for his concert party.
Yet he passed a fit and proper test by the sfa. Regan then gets a UEFA board post. You couldn’t make it up.
Tells you all you need to know about who still runs Scottish football.
The rats that stood by and watched their club die,are back on board the good ship Sevco,yet this is of no concern to the SMSM. Really?… It just beggars belief,that they are too frightened to say anything on matters Sevco,unless it comes from fat boy Jabba.
Only in this wee bigoted country is it allowed.
10 in a row is under real threat from powers above the players on the field. Be prepared for the war that is coming guys.

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee,
The masons are coming 🙂 pmsl

6 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Morning Jimmybee,
How are you this fine morning?

Gringo
6 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Oh, you’ve set this one yourself, mate.

You bought the parts, you built it and now, like the prize fuckin idiot and clown that you are, you’ve walked right into it with your eyes wide open and now you’re struggling to get out.

Also good to see that some folk still have the savvy to see the sense in what I’ve written here, and how the dots all connect.

Shame for that you don’t, and I seriously wondering if you ever will, cos if this week’s events do not prove it then nothing will.

Go have a look at the Celtic Blog, and see what JF, and all the well informed posters on there are now saying about just how bad it is.

Because everyone has now realised, AND ONLY TODAY AT THAT, that what I’ve been telling you the whole weekend and beyond is now true, it IS the fuckin Masons, and it DOES reach into our cops and judiciary, our media, our game and EVEN RIGHT INTO UEFA, as I’ve known for 17 years, and every single lickspittle jobsworth ducker who keeps their mouths shut do so because they’re under orders from their very Grand Masters.

Tell me something, Monti: How do you keep a secret ..?

Ya fuckin dunderheidit cunt.

6 years ago

It’s the masons i tell ye 🙂

Ppppsssppp fnar fnar 🙂

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