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Celtic Diary Thursday January 5: The Business Side Of Football

Whilst we are probably more aware than most that any signings who turn out to be quite good will be off as soon as somebody down south wants them, its still a little disheartening to see players moved on before they even pull on the shirt.

Celtic have turned £10million into £50million and Kouassi

Eboue is next player to fit the ‘buy cheap sell big’ policy.

 

Note that for Celtic, it’s a policy. an exclusive policy, and whilst the article, written by David McCarthy, praises the” buy cheap sell big ” ideal, you can’t help but think there’s a criticism in there somewhere.

Or that we’re the only ones doing it.

Football is first and foremost a business these days. Manchester City aren’t buying up players who will never play for the team just to stop them playing for someone else. They buy them because they have a resale value and they will make money on them further down the line. Proces for players aren’t going to go down in general, so buy paying for a Denaayer, a Roberts or a Boyata they know that all they have to do is loan them out, and if they are a success, they make money.

Sort of a rent a player scheme, but unlike with cars, the value is more likely to increase.

All Celtic have done, as has always been the case, is find better scouts who can spot the Wanyamas, the van Dijks and the Dembeles who are available at the right price at the right time. Not to play this down, of course, its nice to have these players around , even for a couple of years.

The problem now is that other English sides will have seen the profit for Southampton and will look north for their next investment. That way they can snap a player up for £10-15m and sell him on for a huge profit.

For Celtic, and for everyone else, thats the reality now. It’s almost as though winning trophies is a secondary concern for directors, but we kind of knew that already.

McCarthy’s article, like so many in the media, misses the point, such is his enthusiasm to remind any Celtic fans daft enough to pay for his drivel, that we might have some good players in now, but they’ll be gone soon.

Its not just us. It’s football in the 21st century.

 

Fortunately for Celtic, we have a manager who knows the value of players. Then he adds a bit on because he knows that someone will pay it.

Quoted from the McCarthy article, rodgers explains at length how it all works..

“Celtic get a couple of million a year from TV money – down there (England) you are getting £100m if you finish bottom. So absolutely every penny we get in here at Celtic has to be worked for.

“There is a real unity here at Celtic and that makes for an integrity within the club because everyone understands what we are trying to do.

“We are trying to go down a different route and for me not having loads of money to go out and buy the big players means a real chance to get back on the training field and really go out and work with players and try to improve them and influence the club. That has been exciting. 

“You know at Celtic that if you get a really talented player then the cycle at best is a couple of years, like Wanyama and van Dijk and Ki.

“If they have that quality then it is a great platform for them to demonstrate that and then they know there is a better financial situation down south.

 

If he is enjoying it, then maybe the players are as well. If the players believe  the manager when he tells them they’ll get the big money move one day, then there’s less chance of their agent telling them its now or never.

Moussa Dembele is a case in point. He could get his big move tomorrow, and then at least two more during his career. If thats what he wants to do.

Rodgers, again from the McCarthy article, says;

 “Moussa and his agent could have gone somewhere else for a lot more money but there are still parts of his game he can improve.

“He wanted to go and develop but he wanted to do it in a pressurised situation and anyone who knows anything about Celtic will tell you that we are expected to win every game and deliver trophies.

“It (a transfer) won’t be January for Moussa. The difference for him is that now he’s with Celtic, if he does leave he won’t be going to a bottom-end Premier League side.

“The money can distort the reality for young players. It takes away from performing and winning things and having games under your belt.

“Now because the rewards can be given out so quickly, a lot of young players lose sight of that.

“It is the clever ones who put themselves on a pathway to perform, knowing that the rewards will come if they keep on producing.” 

You get the feeling that in the dressing room Rodgers plays down the financial aspect for the players, and concentrates on achieving on the field. After all, anyone at that level can get a big contract down south, but not everyone can tell the kids about his medals.

This , in turn , will lead to a team that is hungry for success, and the key word there is team.

You know, I’m still gutted we didn’t make the Europa League knockout rounds this year. Another final would have been nice.

Kouassi Eboue has had his medical, has agreed terms with the club and now has to wait for a work permit. If the club have gone this far you would like to think that there should be no issue with this, especially as we’re not dealing solely with the SFA.

This could see Nir Biton move out, with Fulham among those interested, where he would be re-united with Stefan Johansen.

Remember him ?

It would have been interesting to see if Rodgers could have ironed out the roughness in Johansens play, as his energy, eye for goal and ferocity in the tackle just needed that wee bit more direction and he could have been a top,  top player.

But maybe he didn’t buy into the medal idea. He recently became a father, and no doubt providing for his family was paramount when deciding to take the money rather than the chance to improve himself.

Forgotten defender Deydryck Boyata is paying the price for having a difficult to spell first name, and he will probably exit stage left this month. Having had his confidence shattered at Manchester City, he never really seemed to regain it at Celtic, and although there’s no doubt theres a player in there, no-one seems to be able to convince him there is.

Efe Ambrose will be away, so too will Nadir Ciftci.

The wages saved here will pay the wages of a couple of new players, and the forst chunk of van Dijk money covers the transfer fee.

I’d be surprised to see any of the Scottish players leave, unless they aren’t wanted. The rebirth of James Forrest and Stuart Armstrong has shown that if you work hard and perform on the pitch, you’ll get a shot. For those already on the books, the message is clear.

Perhaps the most remarkable improvement, though, is in Calum MacGregor.

Not yet a first choice, but a more than dependable back up, the youngster has not only turned his game around, but appears to have turned his life around.

His decision to move back home after his drink driving problem has paid off, and the one time Timmy big time is now a much more mature prospect. He simply does what he’s told on the park, and if you keep your eye on him during a game, he is always there to take a pass, and always quick to move it on.

Paul Telfer was the same. A type of player essential to any team, but never one to make the headlines.

Henri Lansbury, an attacking midfielder at Nottingham forest is interesting Celtic, if you believe what you read in the papers, and whilst I’ve no idea if there’s anything in that story-Celtic Park is on lockdown as far as information is comcerned-  its probably fair to say that the papers don’t know either.

The signing of Eboue came out of the blue, and because now other clubs will be watching hwere Celtic do their buying, secrecy is paramount, and so I wouldn’t pay a great deal of attention to the rags.

Popular blogger John James , a constant thorn in the side of “rangers ” and their directors has gone for the jugular with a complaint to the Financial Conduct Authority . you can see it on this link..

In it, he does what the SMSM should be doing, and draws attention to the unique financial activities at Ibrox, and asks for the Authority to have a look at it.

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 The thing that strikes me, and no doubt it’ll hit you as well, is that no one else has thought of doing this. JJ deserves praise for taking on the issue, and any support that can be mustered, but again, the issue is confined to football related websites.

So I’d keep an eye on news websites if i were you, as I’m going to try to widen the issue….in view of this offering from Michael Grant of the times, who appears to actively condone tax evasion , fraud and cheating within the game.

Which is not quite what we meant when we asked the SMSM to look into the issue.

An issue they are looking into, presumably at the request of a PR company to deflect attention away from Mark Warburton, whose season will be finished if Motherwell beat “rangers ” in the Scottish Cup, by reminding readers of Paul le Guen, who tried to change things at the club and was bombed out when he upset captain Baz Ferguson by telling him he was bloody useless.

And not to be left out, The Record..

Former Rangers midfielder Gavin Rae blasts Paul Le Guen 10 years on after he ‘used’ him in Barry Ferguson row

 

clearly agenda based, and more importantly, clearly designed to take attention away from the fact that with no income for the next three weeks, the shit is about to hit the fan over there.

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Yesterday we had this fond memory…

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which gave us this memorable line which reminds us..

Rosco January 4, 2017 at 9:05 am · Edit · Reply →

Everybody loves a bit of green n white!  

A wee bit of a change today, as we ask who is the odd one out and why?

 

 

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The real anton rogan
7 years ago

Top left.

The wee woman with the glasses. She isnthe odd one out as I am sure she is the only one who ever played for the dead club

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago

Tommy Craig was the only one never to play for Celtic?

Cortes
7 years ago

I agree.

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago

Andy Walker because he is now a c~*t?

Level 5 plant
7 years ago

Andy Walker cuz he’s a wanker

Gerry
7 years ago

All, except one is a good guy, whereas Andy Walker is a W@nk.

Gerry
7 years ago

Just noticed wee Tommy Craig, assistant to Big Caesar, but never donned the hoops…

7 years ago

Andy Walker because he is a Fa..a fa…a Fanny!

henkesdreadlocks
7 years ago

Jimmy Steele.He was never officially employed by the club.

mike
7 years ago

Correcto. That man kens his club and kens mair about Celtic than any succulent lamb taker.

henkesdreadlocks
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

I should bleedin hope so.

mike
7 years ago

Forged in the loving memory of his family,all true Celtic men,how sad that he feels so badly let down by a Board who refused to stand up for the ethos that we all share of sporting integrity and honesty.

mike
7 years ago

Yoo can tell that Des de moaner really enjoyed his holidays.

By the way, Sin didny die, Sinn only Fein (ted).

Interesting that only one player of the last managerial teams players bought in, remains a first team regular,whit a waste of money that wis.
Which proves once again what a mistake that wis.The rest going into the space reserved for pish buys.
At long last we have a Management team that kens what they are doing and how the Board totally got it wrong last time.
A modest increase in budget,result, improved performance,which relates to increased profits.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
What are you talking about? Last manager was Neil Lennon, I remember the matches and the players, but for the life of me can’t recall a manager. I have vague memories of a hairy bloke with a wide eyes scary Plug fella. I don’t think I like to talk about it because it makes Charlie Saiz rock back and forth, froth from the mouth and type up some irrelevant drivel.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

He,He, Schoose its a secret,dinny start winding him up noo,he is just starting to calm doon,best to just blank it and think about something soothing,like Paul le GUEN.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

P.S. Do not mention f—-ts either or you run the risk of upsetting D—i.He is suffering from pre holiday return,meaning he disny wat to pee here.Schoose noo.

SteveNaive
7 years ago

Mike, we know how corrupt and biased the Record is but it doesn’t suit us as Celtic fans to call it ‘the retard’ We are better than that Mike

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  SteveNaive

I haud my hands up Steve, its just the basic unfairness of the reporting that does my head in,its just difficult to take.Without hitting back,but i accept that you are correct.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Stop it yoo. i can get massell into trouble without your input. he he.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

🙂

Rob O'Keeffe
7 years ago

Big Tam Gemmell at the back is odd one out.Only guy to get sent off for chasing a German(True Hun) and kicking him up the erchie!

Mickelele
7 years ago

Tommy Gemmell. The only one that’s scored in 2 european cup finals.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Mickelele

I wonder how Tommy is getting on,i used to bump into him years ago when out shopping in Stirling,i heard that he wisny keeping so good,whit a player,but the CQN bhoys were helping him.good on them.

Rosco
7 years ago

Boom! Months of trying n I got a caption comp winner! Yaldi

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Rosco

Well done Rosco, I used to do a lot of business with a company called Rosco,so next time you enter,i!ll scratch your back if you scratch mine. Ha Ha.

henkesdreadlocks
7 years ago
Reply to  Rosco

Is that Terry Butchers shop?? I heard big Goughie likes the odd one.

mike
7 years ago

OOOHHH yous are awful but, but i like yous.

I watched a programme on the telly last week,a bunch of diddys commenting on the seventies comics,they the new so called comics,that was,all that they could offer, was inane comments on comics of the past.Talentless twats. How sad.
Bring back free esh speech.

7 years ago

Yep, watch how you get out the car though, the shop that Gough went to, it’s front door is close to the kerbside.

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

I was so hoping for a Rush joke Ralph with the Exit Stage Left line.
To which the reply was “I’m pulling the strings get a Lifeson”
https://youtu.be/6zXDo4dL7SU

falseprofit
7 years ago

I would switch McGregor to right back in the summer.

bgbhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  falseprofit

hes left footed

mike
7 years ago

How sad that our Lions are reaching the last leg of there journey.
Let us remember and celebrate, there talent,spirit and togetherness,remember to, that giant who brought them all together,who forged that team of lions.
The 50th anniversary in Lisbon in may,a time to remember and to rejoice,a time to celebrate.
Long live our Lions in our memory,long live our Hero!s.

Hail Hail to them one and all.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
Absolutely my friend!

HH

henkesdreadlocks
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Brilliant Mike.

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Agree Mike. I’m booked up for Lisbon. Canny wait.

MON THE HOOPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John McCloy in Tasmania
7 years ago

Being a near 50 year 10 pound Pom I missed a lot of players from1969 on but I reckanise a few of the oldies.(contemporaries).that looks like Brian Clough standing behind Bertie and Jimmy Delaney next to JINKY.Eddy Cantor (Willie O’Neil)behind him(J D) and Alastair Sim in front o’ faither.Clough,Cantor and Sim would love to have played for Celtic.

Iancelt67
7 years ago

Think you’re right john

Mike Bhoyle
7 years ago

The John James item is staggering.
Wonder how that will pan out.
As for us…
Is it “strange” that we have this new guy’s transfer all set up apparently…but now we have to wait for clearance for a work permit?
I’m not criticising but asking…Is this the way it has to be done ?
Can we not find out his “status” or “eligibility” before we go to these lengths ?
Or have we slipped up ?
Its got me puzzled.

bgbhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

its always the case with non eu players

you must apply for a permit, the deal will be done pending the putcome, saves someone else nipping in

if hes played something like 75% of his nations games he will be approved….

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

Mike it was always thus,

1 agree a fee with current club.
2 agree terms with player.
3 apply for a working permit.

only in exceptional cases was the permit rejected,the permit was a shoo in if the player was an International,but Eboue has been on the bench for the Ivory Coast,so there should be no problem achieving said working permit.If it was rejected,the purchasing club can appeal to its own Association,which usually grants the permit.

Mike Bhoyle
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Cheers for the feedback lads..
We now only need to hope that the “Committee” who approve the permit isn’t made up of Huns and Brothers.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

You cannot apply for a work permit until you have a job. You do not have a job until you have a signed contract. Just like normal folks.

The Cha
7 years ago

I think that’s just the way it works, you can’t get a work permit until he’s signed.

Of course if you don’t get a work permit you wouldn’t sign him!

7 years ago

Imagine deleting posts because the word ‘ faggot ‘ is included.?
Fucking hell

Somebody give Desimond his dummy and rattle back.

7 years ago

Mike,
Hahaha i’ve not to lol invite you to lunch for faggots lol.
Maybe we can go for a croissant instead.
Is the word Croissant alright Desi?

Lol lol

7 years ago

Faggots,
Chips and peas……nom nom nom 🙂

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti loves guzzling down some fagotts even if they do end up being a bit salty.

7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

🙂

charlie
7 years ago
charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

at 8 min 20 secs sinclair trips ower the baw the hun at the side kiddin on hees a linesman put him aff ….fuckin cheats

mike
7 years ago

Another succulent lamb attack,do you not just hate it when they threaten lambs,what have sheep done to deserve that.

The files of blankety blank,have still to be opened,another wee reminder of the bad Celtic people and the good mankies.Dig, dig,shovel,shovel,look for dirt,if you canny find any,dinny worry,we shall invent summit.
The ethos of the chip wrappers,in our luvly country,braw on the outside,manky when you look at its underside.

mike
7 years ago

Like a circle in a spirol,
like a dirty rankers top,
do they matter are they relevant,
no they arnt,no there not,
when we are winning,the chip wrappers,
always like to have a pop,
let them keep on digging all they want,
cos we are always on the top,
like a circle in a spirol,
do you like them,no,not a lot.
Ah thats better,the silence of the hams.

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

Going off the latest food related incident is the word Mincer deemed acceptable?
Asking for a friend

7 years ago

🙂

7 years ago

Charlie saiz,
That was Offal patter m8 🙂

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti
Uralius
7 years ago

Nice one Charlie

7 years ago

That’s the dishes done, now for a wee seat and put my feet up.
There’s a faggot left over if anyone wants it.

Ken like.

7 years ago

Desimond,
Are you still spitting the dummy oot?
Mon noo….

Bgbhoy
7 years ago

20 million for dembele? Buy a lot of faggots for the canteen for that….

7 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Lol

Dan the Man
7 years ago

Paul Le Guen must have a story to tell have any of The SMSM

Contacted. Him? in the interests of balance of course.☘☘☘

7 years ago

Ralph,

The Rev. I Am Jolly giving his late call comment. Thank God for ETims’ rumour mill. The SMSM cannot even make their window displays believable. In fact, they get worse year on year. Roll on the fitba. If it wasn’t for the joy of working with young people, I would be committed by now.

H H

portpower
7 years ago

At only 21 and Jon Toral has a bucket list. Ronaldo First.

Maw-haw-haw-haw!!!

sevco dear Liza FC.

portpower
7 years ago

POTY for 2017 so far. C/O Sneckietim

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