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Celtic Diary Friday November 4: Brendans Way Forward

With the international break ahead of us, and a truly mouthwatering clash against England on the horizon….ah, bollocks, I’m not fooling anyone,

Celtic play host to the only side to have taken points of them tomorrow when Inverness Caledonian Thistle make the journey south. There can be no complacency after the splendid performance in Germany, as the “rangers ” are coming and we need to be on our toes.

With competition for places in the side now more intense than it has been for many years, its unlikely any of the tarting eleven will put in less than a decent shift, which doesn’t augur well for the visitors.

They have to be. The success of Moussa Dembele in the hoops has shown others like him that they don’t have to hang around in England where all the foreigners have come over and taken their bloody jobs, and that they can move to glasgow, committ for a few seasons and develop their game at a higher level.

Brendan Rodgers, the Celtic manager, says he has already had one or two enquiries about any jobs going in Glasgow..

“Moussa is a great catalyst if you are an agent now and I have had a number of conversations where people now see the example of Moussa,”

“It really has lit up their eyes to what the possibilities are. Here is a guy – who was a talent – but he was playing in the Championship in England and now he is one of the most coveted strikers – never mind young – in Europe, and his platform is here in Scotland.

“He is a great advertisement for what we are trying to do and he is enjoying his time here. There is talent out there. It is the right ones at the right time.”

Theres obviously a shift in recruitment policy, which explains the mutual consenting of John Park, and perhaps the plan is to be a little less scattergun in the approach, and to target the ones the manager thinks are worth it, as opposed to the ones their agents think are worth it.

Rodgers went on to explain his thinking…

“…. That is the notion that I have in terms of looking at building a structure here that allows more of them to come to here.

“But for every Dembele there is, there are others who aren’t like that. Moussa was coveted by lots of teams in Europe but chose to come here to develop further and learn the game and hopefully play at Champions League level.

“Some players will be happy playing relegation football but earning more money. You can’t blame them because it’s a short career. It’s just the type.

“But we always have to look to find a way and that’s what we’ll do.” 

We know all about the ones who aren’t like that.

The problem with this is that it means its unlikely players will stay once they have made a name for themselves and their selling price makes Peter Lawwell and the rest of our board reach for the paper tissues.

Although Rodgers may well have foreseen this and already dealt with it..and he isn’t just building for the future, as some players, he says, are needed now;

“Of course it’s not nice to lose your best players, but the more experience you get, the more realistic you are. Of course we want to fight to keep the players here for as long as we can.

“That’s the key. When they are enjoying it, even more so. But what’s below that is important, having a stream of players set up to come in and replace them. That’s the key, having that pipeline waiting. “The beauty of it is if you know the profile, you save yourself wasting time, money and effort. If you’ve got a structure, with things in place, OK you’re disappointed if you lose one, but if you have one to come in, that’s key to it.” 

“You can bring a 25-year-old in and still develop him,”

 “If he moves on you can still get value for the club. For me coming in here, I wanted to ensure that we were a team that had power, had speed, has creativity and isn’t predictable.

“Of course, you want hungry player but Kolo Toure is hungry at 35. For me there is no age limit on it. If you bring in a 19-year-old and he develops like Moussa then of course if he then does move on then there is naturally a big resale value but also it is what can be done for the team now. If that player is 29, he is 29.

“Scott Sinclair’s career has flown by and he finds himself now at 27. You look now at the age of between 22 and 29 being the asset age of players but now because of fitness that 29-35 is the next and final part of your career.

“All the studies now of players hitting their peak tend to go towards 29 so Scott comes here at 27; if he has two seasons here and scores 40 goals I will tell you now that we will be getting our door knocked down in the Premier League for teams that want him because managers want goals, they want creativity. So, yes, he is an older player but he is hungry.” 

Rodgers is refreshingly open and honest about what he is trying to do at Celtic, which is a far cry from previous managers, and this will lead to the support backing him in ways that no previous incumbent will have had, simply because he is treating us like adults.

Clearly not a style he has copied from the board, who still see the support, and the minority shareholders as a sort of occupational hazard, and do their best to try not to step in us on their way to their comfy seats.

Tomorrows game should be another three points, and we need to get them, becuase Danny Wilson, another one of those promising youngsters who are about to make their mark on the game, this time from ibrox, has blown the trumpet for the orcs to rally..

“I think it’s important to go into the Celtic game at Hogmanay with momentum behind us, Every game between now and then is going to be important for going into that.

“We’re already too many points behind them, so we don’t want to be any further behind. If anything, we want to close that gap points-wise going into that game.

“I don’t think we can really afford to drop too many more points going into that.

“It’s been disappointing to lose the first two Old Firm games of the season, but we’re looking forward to the next one.

“We’ve got a lot of games before then, but if we can put some points on the board and try to keep the pressure up and try to get wins on a more consistent basis, then we’ll see where that takes us.

“We always believe we can win these games, and especially with the game being at Ibrox we’ll be confident of getting the three points.

“I think confidence is starting to build. We’ve been a bit stop-start, getting a couple of good results and then a not so good one, and it seems like we’ve been stuck in a wee bit of a cycle.

“But we got a good performance on Saturday, and hopefully the boys can build on it and we can get some more wins on the board.

“We’re up to second now, but we want to be pushing even harder to get even more points on the board. We always carry an expectation being at this club of winning games and being successful, but we know that no team is just going to give us a victory.

“When we play against teams they are usually very well-organised and difficult to break down, and they’ve got their professional pride so they’re not just going to roll over and let us win the game.

“So we were fully expecting it to be as difficult as it has been, but we’ve got that expectation to win, so we have to find a way to do so.” 

Proof there that the players are just as far removed from reality as the fans are.

They’ll have to do it without Joey Barton, who is now being forced to train with the under 20 side, presumably an attempt to get him to walk out so they don;t have to pay him.

 

That I can understand, if not condone, but its a little unfair to leave lit cigars around the place with wee notes saying that such and such called you a tosser, joey.

If thats not constructive dismissal, then I don’t know what is.

so to make sure that the “rangers ” don’t creep any closer to us than neccessary-after all, its bad enough getting a flu jab this time of year, so we don’t want to add any more vaccinations than we have to-Celtic must put out their strongest possible side tomorrow, so expect the same starters as we saw against the German team, but with Lustig restored to right back, and Simunovic alongside Sviatchenko.

Meanwhile, according to Sports Witness, Celtic have already fended off one possible suitor for Karamoke Dembele, the player who is likely to remain thirteen for at least another few years to help piss poor journalists with their sensationalist stories

When you’re 13 and you make your debut for the U20s in a club as big as Celtic, you’re going to make headlines, and that’s exactly what Karamoko Dembélé did.

Since then the (very) young forward has made an appearance for Scotland’s U16s, making more headlines, and following criticism in Italy towards Celtic’s decision to hand him a start, there’s now a transfer update in Spain from Sport.

The Catalan newspaper claim that Barcelona had the chance to sign Celtic Park’s youngest prodigy, but decided not to for fear of being handed another transfer ban.

 

They say that after much scouting, the player ‘was ready’ to play for the La Liga champions, who pulled the plug at the last minute.

This appears to be an achievement in itself considering Sport make it clear Celtic are being very careful not to let anyone get near the 13-year-old, with Manchester City and Manchester United ‘crazy’ about him.

They say Barcelona were ‘the first to move’ and ‘got there at an opportune time’ before backing away.

Of course, signing for Luis Enrique’s side might happen in the near future, especially if he develops as well as most expect him to, but for now, he’s stay in Glasgow with Celtic. 

Expect a similar story to appear, courtesy of Level 5, in a couple of Scottish red tops about billy Gilmour-I think thats his name-the Fleckalike currently wowing their development squad . One story that deserves more coverage today and tomorrow is the latest Green Brigade foodbank appeal..

These are the things the foodbank would like you to donate.. notice that its not just food, but some of lifes other essentials..

At the start of the Diary, i mentioned the mouth watering clash with between Scotland and England, which will take place on Armistice Day next week, which is when people solemnly remeber the dead of the two total wars of last century. Recently, this has been expanded to include any war, anywhere and possibly even the odd streetfight and playground scuffle.

 FIFA, who do not allow political statements during their events, have told England and Scotland that they cannot have poppies on their shirts.

 You’d have thought, from the outcry,  that they had also demanded that every citizen should execute the first born in every household.

Even the Prime minister, whatever her name is, has jumpoed on the annual bandwagon of poppiness, which has now become compulsory to wear unless you fancy being branded as some sort of yellow bellied lilly livered lollygagger, or at the very least some sort of religious fanatic who blows up airports in his spare time.

James MacLean, the footballer from Derry, never wears one, as he grew up in a city which saw first hand the damage caused by an occupying army, coincidentally the British one, currently fighting abroad either in defence of some government or against it, we are never quite told which, or , indeed , if the war was won, lost or forced into a replay on neutral ground.

so anyway, MacLean was the subject of a Daily Record poll when he didn’t wear a poppy.

Presumably the next poll, and indeed the next vicious campaign of nationalisitic drum beating should be fired in the direction of another “unbeliever “-England manager Gareth Southgate..

The bastard. whats he thinking of, etc, etc….people gave their lives for him and so on and so forth…

The simple fact is if you want to wear a poppy, then wear one. If you don’t, then don’t.

Thats the freedom that was fought for in the two big wars, and the sacrifice by the conscript army must be remembered, but we shouldn’t be forced to.

Largely because we don’t need to be. We all know what they did, and we all know why.

It’s Friday, so that means its time for

Knob Of The Week

We’ve seen some spectacular winners in the past, but this week we have someone special…albeit anonymous

Somewhere , deep in the bowels of Manchester City council, this person has a position of responsibility.

Someone who sent this out to ascertain someones nationality…

apart from asking why the recipient didn’t have a “Geek “passport….

Whoever sent this, wherever you are, you have achieved what many others, despite the best of efforts, have failed to do.

You are this weeks Etims

Knob Of The Week. 

There was no caption competition yesterday, so we go back to Wednesday to name the last winner…

Dziekanowski’s nightclub child November 2, 2016 at 9:03 am · Edit · Reply

Caption: Man City fans watch the CL game from their usual seats

Courtesy of Moo on Twitter, here’s an interesting incident which may well prove the existence of time travel for todays caption competition.

Elsewhere on the site is a petition to the SFA. Sign it, and we’ll send it to them. They must be held to account for their actions, and one way or another, we’re going to do that.

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7 years ago

” stuck in a bit of a cycle ” – Danny Wilson.
No Danny, Craig Whyte sold the cycle as well as everything else!

Ralph,
While it would be fair for me to say that i won’t ever appear on mastermind, i have just surpassed myself by trying ( several times) to click ‘ NO ‘ on the James Maclean pic 🙂

Taxi for Monti.

Admin
7 years ago

Very interesting comment from A_Mac on Phils Site…

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/brexit-hillary-and-joey/#comments

Just what security are they hiving off this time…Paul Murrays hairdryer?

7 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Desi,
Believe it or not, i once owned a hairdryer.

Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

P
I
S
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🙂

7 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

🙂

mike
7 years ago

I feel pretty,
oh so pretty,
i feel pretty and witty and bright,
and i pity any woman who doesny get it from me tonight.

I feel charming,
oh so charming,
its alarming how charming i feel,
and so pretty,
that i really believe i!m not real.

Shiltrum
7 years ago

Caption: Uncle Hughes makes his presence felt in the Copeland road end, Mon the hoops!!!

Shiltrum
7 years ago
Reply to  Shiltrum

Hughie!!!!!!!

mike
7 years ago

Times are great at the Tic.with a Manager who is determined to make us a force to be reckoned with,i canny wait to see how far he takes us.
Oh we luv yoo Brendan,
oh yes we do ,
we luv yoo brendan,
yoo ken its troo,
we luv yoo Brendan we dooooooooo,
oh Brendan we luv yooooooooooooo.
oh who put the ooooooo in yooooo.

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago

Here we go 2-captions-in-a-row, I think I will keep my wit out of it today and let one of the less witty win (mainly cause I can’t think of anything).

charlie
7 years ago

street fight or playground scuffle ha ha ha ha fuckin peach ralph

John McCloy in Tasmania
7 years ago

The bloke in the bow tie looks like a young Charlie Tully.

charlie
7 years ago

caption glasgows finest try to lift charlie tully for offensive behavior during the 7-1 game

Patrickqu
7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Winner

charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  Patrickqu

ime wae you patrickqu ha ha see wit a done there ime a poet who didnae know it

Gerry Mick
7 years ago

Excellent Diary Ralph. Great choice for Knob of the Week (should be in the running for Knob of the Year as well).

7 years ago
Reply to  Gerry Mick

Gerry,
Charlie saiz is the favourite at the moment for that title 🙂

( just pulling your leg now mr saiz )

PBrain
7 years ago

It doesn’t matter if Moussa is a catalyst, as long as he wants to play for Celtic.

Morto
7 years ago
Reply to  PBrain

or a prodilyst or any other religion – open to all!

Bondibrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Morto

“open to all”…Except if you’re homosexual, eh Montizuma. Anyhoo…HAIL HAIL to one and all.

7 years ago
Reply to  Bondibrian

Bondi,
Good to see you agree!!

andybhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Hahahahaha!!

andybhoy
7 years ago

Caption……

The not so magic hat (he in the helmet) arrests Charlie amid rumours of sitting on the ball with intent to take the piss.

D’Fhinnein Mick
7 years ago

Charles Patrick.

To this day,my Dad’s all-time favourite player.

HH.

flinker
7 years ago

That looks like a young Charles Patrick Tully arriving at Celtic (1948).
This is a true story,?!!.It was on the Vernons pools literature entitled “Legends of football”.
Charlie missed the team coach for Aberdeen and went on the train.
The coach broke down and arrived at half time but everthing was jake,Charlie was winning 1-0.

D’Fhinnein Mick
7 years ago
Reply to  flinker

Magic!

flinker
7 years ago

Long before the 7-1,game ,Charlie,s got hair there
A true Celtic legend.

D'Fhinnein Mick
7 years ago

charlie was blessed wi perfection,even from the start.

Born on 11 July in Belfast,perfect timing!

jrw
7 years ago

What is a ‘tarting eleven’? Second line third paragraph of today’s diary – we all get caught out with typos, but this one is really quite splendid!

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  jrw

Fairly certain when I was groing up as a bhoy the prime age of a Footballer was considered between 29-31 years of age?
The reason being they are physically as strong as they can get and mentally have all the experience that they need to cope at any level.
Ie the game becomes easier during this period.
All the top players were in this age group back then and were considered your elite players.
I think the word development has somewhat blurred the lines a bit as most players are fine tuning their art in the late 20’s (there are always exceptions)and become the complete article by their early 30’s.
So for me it makes sense to have a few of these in your side perhaps even the backbone of the team with the bulk being 20-25 developing round them?
The rest being made up of 2 or 3 Youngsters like Tierney Dembele Henderson etc who are picking things up from the experience guys day by day.
If you get that balance right then I think you have the perfect balance of youth and experience?
It is good to hear Brendan talk openly like this as no doubt more agents will be made aware and perhaps fancy talking to their charges to see if they fancy it?

corktim
7 years ago

you talk some shite charlie saiz,daily ranger at it again castigating anyone that doesn’t toe the british imperialistic line,bravo james mc clean a man who talks the talk and walks the walk.

7 years ago
Reply to  corktim

🙂

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  corktim

You bring so much to the debate always a pleasure.
I agree with McLean 100% as I have stated every time this crap emerges.
I like a man who talks the talk and walks the walk so he get’s my respect.

Corktim
7 years ago

The truth hurts sorry

charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  jrw

i dont know what that tarting eleven patter is about but it sounds a lotta fun

7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

charlie,

If you have the money – and the stamina – you could even get a tarting dozen.

H H

charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  Pensionerbhoy

pb ime gettin tired thinkin aboot it i think this could be a case of careful what you wish for ha ha

Cartvale88
7 years ago

Great article Ralph love some of the stuff u dig up, especially the Grecian.
Love the comments from Xavi regarding his admiration for Celtic and the fans, about the players leaving for mediocre EPL teams when they can stay at Parkhead and savour the atmosphere, including the UCL.
The first game I attended was the team including Charlie, a great wee man.
As said previously the poppy gestapo are a joke, hey should get off Mcleans back, but he is an say target for the trolls and bigots.

Uralius
7 years ago

Ralph,
This paragraph sums up what I like most about Brendan. Sure we are playing great football with the best of them due to his mad skills, but….
“Rodgers is refreshingly open and honest about what he is trying to do at Celtic, which is a far cry from previous managers, and this will lead to the support backing him in ways that no previous incumbent will have had, simply because he is treating us like adults.”
This makes me so happy he is here. It’s refreshing, respectful and great to be treated as a supporter with a clue, who is an important part of the team rather than being treated like some teenage girl obsessing over a boy band.

Bondibrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Totally agree Ur.

SteveNaive
7 years ago

Celtic’s November Calendar picture…I remember the face but just can’t…Scott somebody…time to bring him back or as soon as ?

BelgoBhoy
7 years ago

Altough I admire and support Mcclean you have to ask yourself why he feels it’s ok to load his pockets with English cash while having moral issues with England. Leave the fat paycheck aside and come home son!

Doc
7 years ago
Reply to  BelgoBhoy

Its not the army that are paying him.

Broxburnbhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  BelgoBhoy

What do you do BelgoBhoy? If you think money in the EPL is English you may be mistaken. I get paid by my company and we trade with British companies and Irish and German etc. give the guy a break

7 years ago

Inverness tomorrow.
Gordon
Lustig/Sviatchenko/Simunovic/Izzy
Brown/Armstrong
Roberts/Rogic/Sinclair
Griffiths
subs: De Vries/Gamboa/McGregor/Bitton/Dembele/Forrest/Toure
I haven’t seen an update on injuries and fitness.
I think it will go 4-0 to the bhoys.
The Sheep in action tonight at Partick.

7 years ago

Sorry, Toure’s out injured. Boyata as a sub?

iain in alberta
7 years ago

I like ur team Devoy45. How about McCart or O’Connell as sub though. I would bring Griff back too and even have Dembele up front or alongside – playing off each other and bringing on Roberts or Rogic for the last half hour?
I watched Celtic v St Etienne from 1968 on yew toob. What a game! With lots of mistakes all round, the players from then would get slaughtered nowadays on the internet if they made half the mistakes they did then. Even my football hero Bobby Murdoch coughed the ball up a couple of times in the middle of the park.
Hoping for accurate intelligent passing and movement and lots of goal for the front men.
HH

7 years ago

iain in alberta

Those green tinted specs do nothing for old timers and their memories. I know. God, the other day I thought I was reading ETims in the cludgie only to find out when I stood up, I had three sheets of loo paper in my hand.

H H

iain in alberta
7 years ago

PS Monti,
I never pegged u as a Maggie T fan. Hehe.

7 years ago

🙂

iain in alberta
7 years ago

Pensionerbhoy.
As long as it was just paper in your hand!
I can only remember wee snippets of games, sometimes just a tackle or a goal. The memory can change stuff a bit as time goes on. Ah well really enjoying watching BR’s Celtic evol/revo loo shun.

Macca
7 years ago

Griffiths needs game time. Lets get him on from the start. Dembele been magic but a wee rest might be just the thing. ps big Yaya T in the press today. Available as a free in the summer. Imagine him next to Broonie….c’mon Kolo, have a word wae yir bro…:-)

7 years ago

Gordon
Gambia Eric Jose Izzy
Brown. Armstrong
Roberts. Rogic. Sinclair
Dembele.
Subs Griff Henderson McGregor Lustig Cifti Goalie Boyata.
5-0 Celtic

7 years ago

Celtic v Inverness 3-5-2

Gordon

Lustig
Simunovic
Sviatchenko

Gamboa rwb
Izaguirre lwb

Brown
Armstrong
Rogic (10) cam

Griffiths
Dembele

Macca
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I’m liking your 3-5-2 set up, esp if we want to play it v Barca but if Toure is fit he needs to be in, with Lustig at RB. Feel we will need Sinclair as he has been a stand out. Rogic to miss out?

7 years ago
Reply to  Macca

Macca,
Just thought Forrest and Sinclair could do with a breather m8

Duncan
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I would be happy to see that deployed at some point Monti and with those players too.
Would destroy most sides in the SPL.
Good shout.

7 years ago
Reply to  Duncan

Duncan,
Yep, i think it’s a strong side.
Griffiths is too good to be on the bench every week!
Brendan knows best though and i completely trust him!
HH

7 years ago

Caption: Glasgow police move in and arrest Charles Patrick for not wearing a poppy.

Scully
7 years ago

Though forest has played better this season the team is better when he goes off. He can’t beat a defender unlike Roberts. It’s time paddy was given a run now as he’s way more exciting to watch and can pick a pass as Tuesday showed us.

7 years ago
Reply to  Scully

Pish!

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Scully

Scully I disagree, Roberts only ever cuts in and everyone knows it. He “steals” space in the middle for all of our other players. Even if our full back overlaps all of the central defenders and the right side players are in the box by the time our full back crosses. He needs to learn to go to the byline and cross. At least some of the time.

7 years ago

And in death you tore away the chains
let the world hear freedoms song!

God bless you Bobby Sands!

7 years ago

When leaves are still green in December, tis then that our land will be free!

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Saw that once in Germany the winter came in so fast and early a lot of the trees still had green leaves and they froze to the trees it was super weird, snow on the grounds with green leaves on the trees.

7 years ago

“oh were are you now when we need you
what burns were the flame used to be…”
Cheers Monti.
I like your 3-5-2 and I think at some stage, Brendan needs to get Griff and Dembele on at the same time. Today would be an ideal time. We have Ciftci, Sinclair and Christie who can play up front if needed.

7 years ago

Help, Monti. I just noticed you left Sinclair out! He is the best overall player we have and the leading goalscorer in the league! Can’t leave him out unless injured.

7 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
Yes we can m8, he needs a rest to keep him fresh, it’s a long season comrade.
I would say a home game is the best time to tinker.
HH

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